Pavlov VR

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Prisonbreak Minecart
Person Meetup 24 May, 2020 @ 10:18am
Questions about Moderation
For those who don't know, Prisonbreak is an interesting gamemode, simply because it has built in moderation features that allow some users to take control of a lobby. This ranges from respawning those who joined in late to kicking and banning users without the need of a kick vote.

With that fully laid out, here are my questions.

How?
My only guess on how this works is that the plugin calls info from a server with all the steamids of moderators and such, but even then I'm not fully sure if that's the case. So, how does it work? How are you able to have people be moderators of a map?

Why?
I don't see why lobbies need moderation. Actually, I don't see why a map itself needs moderation. Because that's what this is, a map. This isn't a server for Prisonbreak, it's a map that anyone can load up. So why is there moderation plugins in it?
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Yoshey  [developer] 31 May, 2020 @ 2:26pm 
How? Previously, this worked by hard-coding the staff team into the Map file itself. However, the new Beta version changed this to allow community servers to have their own staff team. The plan is that people hosting Prisonbreak can decide their own Staff teams.
Since the Beta already launched, my staff team ceased all actions on Servers not hosted by us.

Why? Because Prisonbreak is a Gamemode with heavy rules that requires regulations. Votekicking is not the best way here since people get falsely votekicked a lot. Instead, this is resolved with a staff team that knows the rules in their sleep.

This is how this Gamemode was always played in previous games (cs:s, tf2 etc) and is how it will always be played. That's just how Gamemodes with heavy rules work.

Though as said Previously, with the new Pavlov Modding features, I'm moving this system to be on a Community-Server basis. So if you don't like the staff team, you can join a different community, or host your own server.
Person Meetup 31 May, 2020 @ 7:59pm 
Originally posted by Yoshey:
How? Previously, this worked by hard-coding the staff team into the Map file itself. However, the new Beta version changed this to allow community servers to have their own staff team. The plan is that people hosting Prisonbreak can decide their own Staff teams.
Since the Beta already launched, my staff team ceased all actions on Servers not hosted by us.

Huh, I'm surprised that was all baked into the map file. Not what I was expecting, but a neat workaround!

Originally posted by Yoshey:
Why? Because Prisonbreak is a Gamemode with heavy rules that requires regulations. Votekicking is not the best way here since people get falsely votekicked a lot. Instead, this is resolved with a staff team that knows the rules in their sleep.

This is how this Gamemode was always played in previous games (cs:s, tf2 etc) and is how it will always be played. That's just how Gamemodes with heavy rules work.

Though as said Previously, with the new Pavlov Modding features, I'm moving this system to be on a Community-Server basis. So if you don't like the staff team, you can join a different community, or host your own server.

Fair enough. I mostly just come from the perspective of Pavlov's lobby system. Let's take TTT for example. There's a clear difference from Pavlov's TTT compared to say the Garry's Mod version when it comes to joining a public server/lobby. In general, Garry's Mod TTT servers have always felt cold to me and unwelcoming, with Pavlov being more open to chaos (that does include RDM). So I guess in the context of what your talking about, it would be more light despite being a heavy gamemode.

I saw that same kind of logic in the first Prisonbreak games I played, where it was mostly just chaos and laughs. If there was an admin around for "problematic events", like when the guards keep killing each other, I think I would have less memorable events playing on Minecart. But ya, I understand the reasoning behind moderation now. I actually think the system you set up now is the best mix for both lobbies and community servers, so thanks!
Yoshey  [developer] 1 Jun, 2020 @ 3:01am 
Thank you for understanding. ^^
76561199110993706 27 Nov, 2020 @ 11:49am 
moderation on a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ map that people wanna play differently hahahaha trolled
Yoshey  [developer] 27 Nov, 2020 @ 12:42pm 
dude the gamemode is not even actively moderated anymore and I went on a Hiatus who are you trolling?
Red 22 Jul, 2022 @ 6:32am 
hi i just got this prison break map i just want to know if it would be recommended for new players or not
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