Team Fortress 2

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Spycy Chilli
BRAVE BIRD 16 Thg12, 2013 @ 9:19am
More appropriate stats ?
Pros:
Upon backstab:
The victim dies carbonized widly.
When taunting, a short duration buff will be applied : damage +10%, rate of fire +10%.
In MvM upgrades, you can choose an option to increase the buff's length, another for the strength of the buff, and a last one consisting into an automatic ignition of a target upon hit ( in case a backstab didn't function )
Cons:
Health -30
Pyros are unaffected by this particular weapon, due to their combi, and ultra powers.
This weapon cannot be used under water
Taunting or eating the weapon will result into self combustion, during which hiding or cloaking is useless, due to the fact you then become visible when on fire.


Pretty sure that'd do the trick.

ELSE :

Nguyên văn bởi OzFurSkele_Bear:
How's about this?

Pros:
+30% fire resistance (passive or while deployed?)
Upon a successful backstab on a Pyro, deployed Huo-Long Heavy, or burning enemy, store 1 successful Mini-Crit for each enemy killed up to a maximum of 4. (passed on to all other weps like Soda Popper Hype)
Cons:
-10% attack damage (non-backstabs)
-Upon successful backstab, cloaking is disabled for 5 seconds.
Passive:
=Killed players turn to ash. (as if killed with the Phlog, Manmelter, or Third Degree)

Another suggestion :

Nguyên văn bởi Dig Dug:
How About Have It A Little Bit More Balanced And Reliable

Pros :
On Hit, Set Victims Ablaze (When Its Not A Backstab)
When Hit By Fire, Store 1 Mini-Crit For Your Revolver

Cons :
Cannot Store Another Mini-Crit Until You Are Not On Fire
+20% Fire Weakness

And Maybe A Taunt Kill :
On Taunt, The Spy Takes A Bite Of The Chili And Then Spews Flames Out Of His Mouth

Yet another suggestion looking decent :
Nguyên văn bởi Chrisanthimum:
What I've thought of is this so far:

+Duel with Spycicle Users
+Backstab gains 3 seconds of fire imunity (Afterburn and normal)
+Face stabs (Anything but backstab) lights target on fire for 2 seconds
-Burn longer when knife is equipped (Not holding it, but just having it on the loadout)
-50% weapon switch speed

+Backstabs cause the victim to distintigrate

The thing about weapons is trying to not make the stats on it too long. Alot of the stats here are a bit overboard as well, it's a chili pepper, not a fire retardent suit, so why would it be able to make you literally fireproof if you stab enough people? Spycicle does the same thing but melts it. Any weapon that can already one hit kill any class in the game unless uber'd doesn't need the power to make you invincible all the time to the one class (Pyro) that is meant to kill it's holder.

P.S. I posted this on the other Stats Discussion as well.


how about:
+10% damage
+20% firing speed
+25% flame resistance
-10% health penalty
Backstabs do not kill but instead do double normal facestab damage and burn 15-20% of the victim's health away over time unless the victim is unignited or grabs a health pack.
Lần sửa cuối bởi BRAVE BIRD; 7 Thg01, 2014 @ 11:09am
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Flat Penguin  [nhà phát triển] 16 Thg12, 2013 @ 9:25am 
Yep I like these stats. Maybe when you take a bite of the weapon could see the seeds inside the chilli along with a bite mark
R∃M1X 16 Thg12, 2013 @ 10:35am 
ye these stats are good. dont get the last part though. im from poland. sentry approved :sentry:
Appeltaart 16 Thg12, 2013 @ 10:51am 
Nguyên văn bởi Flat Penguin:
Yep I like these stats. Maybe when you take a bite of the weapon could see the seeds inside the chilli along with a bite mark

maybe you could trow the weapon and if it would hit it would set the person to be hit on fire for 15 seconds but the recharge is like 30 seconds to use the knife again
SpaghettiiJuice 16 Thg12, 2013 @ 2:29pm 
how is cloaking or hiding useless? you could have said "you eat it when you right click" like the eurka but hiding? standing in a corner? without cloak? doesnt make sense
Dissocialite 16 Thg12, 2013 @ 2:45pm 
Should Turn target to ash, and be powered up by a friendly pyro's flame
Bacon Pyro 17 Thg12, 2013 @ 9:17am 
-cant bakstab pyros
+fireproof
+burns bodies on sucesful backstab
(oWn) Medic 17 Thg12, 2013 @ 9:39am 
good stats but what about the last one? you cant cloak or something?
KERMITHY FRUG 17 Thg12, 2013 @ 9:48am 
Nguyên văn bởi Mann of the Blade:
Should Turn target to ash, and be powered up by a friendly pyro's flame
yus
BRAVE BIRD 17 Thg12, 2013 @ 11:25am 
Updated to make the *useless hiding* part more understandable. Thanks for the feedback.
Jazz Boye Jambo 17 Thg12, 2013 @ 11:26am 
another good thing to add! pyros cant be backstabbed with this
Wx32 17 Thg12, 2013 @ 1:20pm 
What he means is that, upon taunt, the knife is consumed, giving you the buffs, but also lighting you on fire. An on-fire spy can cloak, but everyone can see him.
SpaghettiiJuice 17 Thg12, 2013 @ 1:30pm 
Nguyên văn bởi SuperHoovyBoy:
good stats but what about the last one? you cant cloak or something?
i think he means its like the eurka effect right click u eat u die or something but hiding without cloak seems silly
BRAVE BIRD 17 Thg12, 2013 @ 2:11pm 
Re updated lel
-30 health for a buff that requires you to taunt, UNDISGUISED AS A SPY, leaving you voulnerable to attack, and if there is a pyro killing your team-mates, you cannot take care of it, plus it distractingly light things on fire... it just seems a bit useless. Not only that, but it does light you on fire (as far as i have heard) when the buff is activated via taunt, right?

Nguyên văn bởi Bacon Pyro:
-cant bakstab pyros
+fireproof
+burns bodies on sucesful backstab

a bit better ,but the pyro thing just seems like a gimmick.
Lần sửa cuối bởi The Communist Lobster; 18 Thg12, 2013 @ 11:53am
BRAVE BIRD 18 Thg12, 2013 @ 1:28pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Communist Lobster:
-30 health for a buff that requires you to taunt, UNDISGUISED AS A SPY, leaving you voulnerable to attack, and if there is a pyro killing your team-mates, you cannot take care of it, plus it distractingly light things on fire... it just seems a bit useless. Not only that, but it does light you on fire (as far as i have heard) when the buff is activated via taunt, right?

Nguyên văn bởi Bacon Pyro:
-cant bakstab pyros
+fireproof
+burns bodies on sucesful backstab

a bit better ,but the pyro thing just seems like a gimmick.

I can't let things get too op all of a sudden xD.
Although the "no-pyro killing" thingy is a gimmick, I should say it's mostly optional.

I might need to rethink the buff actually.

Now I've thought of something :
What if the buff made you able to front-stab, but let you be ultra visible & vulnerable?
Reply me about that.
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