Garry's Mod

Garry's Mod

[LFS] Arado Ar 64
Port Suggestions.
You May Ignore this if you Want but Here im Listing some WOWP Vehicles i would love to see ported and made into Lfs aircraft.

This is a Long List and you can Say Yes no or Idfc to any of them LOL. Btw (+)= Priority Suggestions

Fw 56 Stosser (+)
Fw 159

Arado Ar 80

Curtis P-23
Curtis XP-31
Curtiss F11C Goshawk (Known as Hawk 2)

Grumman F2F (Also Known as the Hawk 3 In War Thunder and WOWP) (+)

Boeing P-26 Peashooter

Kochyerigin TSh-2

Supermarine Type 224

Hawker Demon (+)


You may Do Whatever with These there just Suggestions.

VVV Suggestions That Have Been Debunked by Xyvo. VVV

B-32 Dominator (+) Junkers Ju 86 E (+) Breda Ba.27 Metallico (Too Big or To High of a Teir)

AGO Ao 192 & Tomashevich Pegasus (+) (Not 100% Debunked but arnt that Likely)
Last edited by EpicFrostchaserSWF; 14 May, 2020 @ 5:01am
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Xyvoracle  [developer] 13 May, 2020 @ 12:29pm 
I'm only interested in porting the very early game stuff because GMod map sizes are just too small to make use of anything better/bigger
EpicFrostchaserSWF 13 May, 2020 @ 12:41pm 
Originally posted by Xyvoracle:
I'm only interested in porting the very early game stuff because GMod map sizes are just too small to make use of anything better/bigger
Shall I Remove the Large Aircraft then?

Also are Small bombers Like the Demon, AGO Ao 192 or the Pegasus ok? Since there about the same size as Gredwitches JU-88?

I still respect your opinion to do smaller aircraft and i Cant Wait to See the Next Port :D
Last edited by EpicFrostchaserSWF; 13 May, 2020 @ 12:49pm
Xyvoracle  [developer] 13 May, 2020 @ 12:59pm 
Again, I would like to, but something at that size just doesn't work in the GMod map sizes. Even on the largest possible map size, Gredwitch's Ju 88 has to keep turning or you'll hit a border
Im my Personal Opinion you dont really need to on maps Like Flatgrass, Freespace 13 or fork and even tho thats true i kinda like using the JU-88.
Honestly on maps like freespace 13 ive turned maybe every 5 seconds which isnt really as annoying as you think.
Also there are larger star wars ports and huge maps that are few and far between.

Still Respecting your Opinion here its fine if you still dont want to make them im just thinking about those maps and how its fine to fly the JU-88 or Other large LFS on them.
Last edited by EpicFrostchaserSWF; 13 May, 2020 @ 1:11pm
Xyvoracle  [developer] 13 May, 2020 @ 1:23pm 
To my knowledge, the horizontal limit for Source 1 maps is 32768 units, or roughly 0.83 km. At 110 km/h (roughly the top speed of the Ar 64 in-game) you will reach the border from the other side in 27 seconds. If you go faster than that, it will be even faster. The only solution I see is scaling down everything which I do want to look into but unless I can guarantee that it's a viable solution, I'm not going to even look in to porting anything better than say the first 3 tiers of WoWP.
Originally posted by Xyvoracle:
To my knowledge, the horizontal limit for Source 1 maps is 32768 units, or roughly 0.83 km. At 110 km/h (roughly the top speed of the Ar 64 in-game) you will reach the border from the other side in 27 seconds. If you go faster than that, it will be even faster. The only solution I see is scaling down everything which I do want to look into but unless I can guarantee that it's a viable solution, I'm not going to even look in to porting anything better than say the first 3 tiers of WoWP.

After Testing the JU-88 on Flatgrass i found that its not true that they need to turn constantly.
You Can Fly and Aircraft Similarly sized to the JU-88 (Like the AGO) For About 15 Seconds before having to turn on Flatgrass and Fork.
Smaller Ones give a Even Longer time.

Id Like to State that For the AGO Ao-192 it would Fair Similarly to the JU-88
For the the Hawker Demon, and the Pegusus it would fair to Gredwitches JU-87 or the IL2 on the workshop and the GTA V LFS Planes by my friend Notakid.

I Do think Most maps that work with the JU-88 will work with the AGO.
And the other 2 seem like there be fine anywere the IL-2 JU-87 or ARC-130 can.

When Gredwitch Drops the B-17 Later this year it will suffer what you stated i can forsee.

You may Disprove my work and honestly if you dont make the AGO or the other 2 Light bombers its ok.
Last edited by EpicFrostchaserSWF; 13 May, 2020 @ 3:51pm
Xyvoracle  [developer] 13 May, 2020 @ 8:00pm 
Regardless of the specific times, the point is that you can't fly them like you properly should and thus if I were to put them in and give them semi-realistic handling then they'd be practically useless so it isn't worth my time. As I said before the only solution to this that I'm aware of is to scale down the aircraft and other vehicles, players, etc, which is a big task, but theoretically possible. If I can confirm that this is possible and works decently well, then I may consider utilising the larger aircraft in that way
Originally posted by Xyvoracle:
Regardless of the specific times, the point is that you can't fly them like you properly should and thus if I were to put them in and give them semi-realistic handling then they'd be practically useless so it isn't worth my time. As I said before the only solution to this that I'm aware of is to scale down the aircraft and other vehicles, players, etc, which is a big task, but theoretically possible. If I can confirm that this is possible and works decently well, then I may consider utilising the larger aircraft in that way
Understood and i shall remove the next 2 larger aircraft (AGO and Pegusus) But the Thing about the TSH-2 and the Hawker Demon is that there about the size of most Midwar fighters so id think there ok. Seriously the demon is just a Extended version of the Hawker Hart.
Still Understanding your reasoning and i accept it.
Last edited by EpicFrostchaserSWF; 14 May, 2020 @ 5:08am
Originally posted by Xyvoracle:
Regardless of the specific times, the point is that you can't fly them like you properly should and thus if I were to put them in and give them semi-realistic handling then they'd be practically useless so it isn't worth my time. As I said before the only solution to this that I'm aware of is to scale down the aircraft and other vehicles, players, etc, which is a big task, but theoretically possible. If I can confirm that this is possible and works decently well, then I may consider utilising the larger aircraft in that way
What shall be your next port, modder? By the way still awaiting an update on Ar 64 silent gun issue. Great work and effort you are doing so far partner!
Xyvoracle  [developer] 14 May, 2020 @ 4:22pm 
I have the model and materials in-game for the Poliparkov I-5 (the first variant, which is based on the I-5's prototype VT-11.) My plans as far as a new addon is to include both the VT-11 and the production I-5 in one addon, and then update this one, fixing the gun volume and hopefully refining the handling a bit, and also adding the Arado 65.
Originally posted by Xyvoracle:
I have the model and materials in-game for the Poliparkov I-5 (the first variant, which is based on the I-5's prototype VT-11.) My plans as far as a new addon is to include both the VT-11 and the production I-5 in one addon, and then update this one, fixing the gun volume and hopefully refining the handling a bit, and also adding the Arado 65.
I cant Wait for a Soviet Biplane :D
Originally posted by Epicstormchaser (WW1-WW2 Buff):
Originally posted by Xyvoracle:
I have the model and materials in-game for the Poliparkov I-5 (the first variant, which is based on the I-5's prototype VT-11.) My plans as far as a new addon is to include both the VT-11 and the production I-5 in one addon, and then update this one, fixing the gun volume and hopefully refining the handling a bit, and also adding the Arado 65.
I cant Wait for a Soviet Biplane :D
This guy is amazing :D The only active LFS modder that is actually willing to work for us military mod fans.
Originally posted by Volmark | TurkishLandsknecht:
Originally posted by Epicstormchaser (WW1-WW2 Buff):
I cant Wait for a Soviet Biplane :D
This guy is amazing :D The only active LFS modder that is actually willing to work for us military mod fans.
Agreed.
Any by Millitary you Mean World War Mods Right?
Originally posted by Epicstormchaser (WW1-WW2 Buff):
Originally posted by Volmark | TurkishLandsknecht:
This guy is amazing :D The only active LFS modder that is actually willing to work for us military mod fans.
Agreed.
Any by Millitary you Mean World War Mods Right?
Yeah man! WW1 and WW2 is my jam. But I love any war stuff coming alive in gmod. Modern ones are also really cool, but still, world war stuff is the most authentic and fun ones no doubt brother.
Last edited by TurkishLandsknecht; 14 May, 2020 @ 6:19pm
Originally posted by Volmark | TurkishLandsknecht:
Originally posted by Epicstormchaser (WW1-WW2 Buff):
Agreed.
Any by Millitary you Mean World War Mods Right?
Yeah man! WW1 and WW2 is my jam. But I love any war stuff coming alive in gmod. Modern ones are also really cool, but still, world war stuff is the most authentic and fun ones no doubt brother.
Agreed X2
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