alt fire fires a liquid/gas and the player hit with it takes mini crit damage
alt fire takes away ammo
-15% damage
+15% health on wearer
+20% burn time
+30% ammo
wearer takes extra damage under water
+15% alt fire cost
no air blast

pdmako, согласен с тобой.

Do airblast

Then its good....

Originally posted by meinherr1:

Do airblast

I think no airblast compromises for the rest

Originally posted by meinherr1:

Do airblast

No for one i think we need more flame thrower's with no air blast because it make's demo men and soldiers' wanna die in hole and never come out until team fortress 3 if valve is actually going to make it.Kinda like episode three for half life 2.

half life two episode three delayed for 999,999,999,999,999,999,999, months/years.
I really want that game to come out.

what if, playing off the pump thing its got going on, youd have to reload it after a bit?
Like-
50% more ammo
-75% clip size
+20% damage

Originally posted by gamma ray:

what if, playing off the pump thing its got going on, youd have to reload it after a bit?
Like-
50% more ammo
-75% clip size
+20% damage

thats a good idea but dont say -75% clip size and +50% ammo since no flame throwers in tf2 have clips say, takes ammo.

Actually the pdmako idea that the flametrower dont airblast,its good, a lot and it makes a lot of sense you know...

Originally posted by pdmako:

Originally posted by meinherr1:

Do airblast

No for one i think we need more flame thrower's with no air blast because it make's demo men and soldiers' wanna die in hole and never come out until team fortress 3 if valve is actually going to make it.Kinda like episode three for half life 2.

Originally posted by pdmako:

Originally posted by meinherr1:

Do airblast

No for one i think we need more flame thrower's with no air blast because it make's demo men and soldiers' wanna die in hole and never come out until team fortress 3 if valve is actually going to make it.Kinda like episode three for half life 2.

Valve can't count to 3 I thought?

Originally posted by pdmako:

Originally posted by gamma ray:

what if, playing off the pump thing its got going on, youd have to reload it after a bit?
Like-
50% more ammo
-75% clip size
+20% damage

thats a good idea but dont say -75% clip size and +50% ammo since no flame throwers in tf2 have clips say, takes ammo.

I meant more along the lines that it has a 50 clip with 300 spare, as opposed to the current 200 with 0 spare

Originally posted by gamma ray:

Originally posted by pdmako:

thats a good idea but dont say -75% clip size and +50% ammo since no flame throwers in tf2 have clips say, takes ammo.

I meant more along the lines that it has a 50 clip with 300 spare, as opposed to the current 200 with 0 spare

I can see that as fair but why 50 per clip when it could be a 25 clip size with 75% extra ammo and that could add a secondary that used the spare ammunition.

Originally posted by pdmako:

alt fire fires a liquid/gas and the player hit with it takes mini crit damage
alt fire takes away ammo
-15% damage
+15% health on wearer
+20% burn time
+30% ammo
wearer takes extra damage under water
+15% alt fire cost
no air blast

There isnt a lot of maps with water in them, but what about like this? If they get wet (water, jarate, mad milk, etc.), you lose ammo (-5 ammo every second), and is marked for death.

Originally posted by zekrom354:

Originally posted by pdmako:

alt fire fires a liquid/gas and the player hit with it takes mini crit damage
alt fire takes away ammo
-15% damage
+15% health on wearer
+20% burn time
+30% ammo
wearer takes extra damage under water
+15% alt fire cost
no air blast

There isnt a lot of maps with water in them, but what about like this? If they get wet (water, jarate, mad milk, etc.), you lose ammo (-5 ammo every second), and is marked for death.

yeah but think about the maps that do and thats a good idea but i dont like -5 ammo every second and marked for death i really want people using new weapons not like this is something thats just going to be in the void of tf2 after 2 weeks of it being out.