Store Page
Arma 3
All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos Workshop News Guides Reviews
Arma 3 >  Workshop > Vindicta Team's Workshop > Vindicta (Alpha) > Discussions
Vindicta (Alpha)
Description Discussions44 Comments919 Change Notes
This topic has been locked
Matso 29 Aug, 2020 @ 11:41pm
Stealing Helicopters - You shouldn't punish for a rare chance
Playing with my mates we get attacked by 3 hinds after taking a checkpoint, after a few well placed shots with a BMD-1 we manage to shoot all three down, one of which happens to not land in the vast forests of Livonia and close to an open area.

An engineer comes quickly to save its fuel and repairs it, we spin the rotors up and.... The engine and anti-torque craps out, you know why? Because there is some god awful system in the game that prevents the players from stealing a helicopter because "I dont know what these switches are" pops up in vehicle chat and the helicopters craps itself.

This doesn't happen with the BRDMs my team stole, nor the BTR-60 nor the BTR-70 nor the BMP-1P nor the BMD-1K. How come my character is fully proficient in these military grade IFVs and APCs but not in a helicopter which I as an Arma player can fly easily.

My suggestion, remove it, you shouldn't punish players with some arbitrary feature to cover some rare chance event. All the military squads carry MANPADs anyways its not like the hind can dominate the skies as, with all vehicles, still requires infantry support.

The ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in question: https://i.imgur.com/yNJFgkD.jpg
< >
Showing 1-8 of 8 comments
AssMangler420 30 Aug, 2020 @ 9:02am 
I agree, my buddies and I have spent a few days playing this now and I feel like the lack of air support, even transport heli's is a major let down.
#1
⎝⧹ Naillin^^ ⧸⎠ 30 Aug, 2020 @ 2:39pm 
did anyone understand how to fix or configure this?
#2
Savelli  [developer] 1 Sep, 2020 @ 5:06pm 
Lots of features are still incomplete, as a result of which there enemy has no proper AA system against helicopters and you can rearm them infinitely. With an attack helicopter such as Apache, you know how much damage you can deal (8 hellfire missiles plus a 30mm cannon, moving at 300 km/h in sky), the whole campaign is virtually won at this point. In a system where we support 10+ factions, all attack helicopters are treated equally, therefore we don't differentiate between Apache or Hind.

If we decide to continue the development of this scenario, we plan to implement AA defence for enemy such as this one in the link below, then we will unlock helicopter usage, since you'll have to clear up a lot of air defence sites before you can use helicopters.

https://youtu.be/N6gfbIH8rhM

And finally, If you want aircraft warfare, you can play something else, like Liberation. Focus of this scenario is primarily guerrilla warfare. It was a big debate if we should even implement helicopter usage for enemies, since then we would have to handle with their overpowered abilities on player side.
#3
Savelli  [developer] 1 Sep, 2020 @ 6:04pm 
Also, it's not a punishment, but a lock for a helicopter usage. If you start up the engine, it just shuts down. If you try to overcome it, then it breaks. And it's not against a rare chance, it's quite easy to get hold of enemy attack helicopters in this game due to their surviveability when piloted by AI.
#4
Matso 2 Sep, 2020 @ 1:46am 
Ok, thanks for your explanation.
#5
shadowhunter388 9 Sep, 2020 @ 8:54am 
I kinda wish you kept it too, or at least gave us an option. My buddies and I knew the helicopters were OP so we used them for transport instead, staging a GREAT HIEST sorts where we take a van, load the enemy loot boxes in them, then have a helicopter drop a line in which the person on the ground will hitch, then we fly off with the van, making it somewhat realistic since a militia, if it had any aerial usage, would likely use it for logistics and transport.
#6
Nova 17 Nov, 2020 @ 10:10pm 
Remove it anyways. It literally doesn't matter if your half-assed AA sites work or not. If we want to use a helicopter, then we can use a helicopter.

In any case, to get around this morons limitations just use Zeus to force the engine on and disable damage.
#7
Savelli  [developer] 18 Nov, 2020 @ 4:09am 
Originally posted by Nova:
Remove it anyways. It literally doesn't matter if your half-assed AA sites work or not. If we want to use a helicopter, then we can use a helicopter.

In any case, to get around this morons limitations just use Zeus to force the engine on and disable damage.

Thanks, for all our hard efforts we get people like Nova spitting insults on our development team. You can go ahead and make your own projects as you like.
#8
< >
Showing 1-8 of 8 comments
Per page: 1530 50