Crusader Kings III

Crusader Kings III

Princes of Darkness
Nerf murder
Isn't it a tad too powerful? Some of these vampires have lived for thousands of years and I pull off murders on them very easily. I've had to stop doing it as it ruins my immersion. It should be almost impossible and very costly.
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Not quite. I mean yes, on one hand we have late game Helena with 100 diplomacy and intrigue, with all attraction and agent acceptance bonuses possible. Whole victim's court and all vassals join her scheme from the get-go and it's quite unsportsmanlike.

But on the other hand, we have starts with intrigue being the only bright side of the existence and a key to survival in early years. I would not say that most of them have easy time allocating resources and preparing agents to carry executions they need in timely and predictable maneer.

In the loving memory of our grandsire, you know, the First Murderer, I would rather keep all options on the table for harder starts, rather than trying to balance overmaxed Helena.

Likewise, it's impossible to balance newer RP-ers vs experienced players with minimaxing inclanations. I would agree, that at some point self-restriction is the key. When I can easily do something I feel is stupid, I don't.

I am not against fine tuning in principle. But even then, I see more benifits in enforcing more ways for PC to face tragic consequances of their actions, rather than in making murder scheme in particular weaker.
Your reply is an interesting one and you have brought forth an argument I never considered. I guess I agree with you, in theory, but in practice I still find myself a little disappointed that I was able to assassinate certain vampires when I was little more than some upstart count. When I see that someone has managed to live for two or three thousand years I find it a little underwhelming to end them that way. I can simply not do it, of course, but as you said when you're an experienced player with the inclination to min-max the allure can be too strong, especially when it would help. I have very little experience with this particular mod though, and I don't have an issue with the base game, it feels a little fairer. I usually err on the side of gameplay rather than realism though, and player agency is a huge part of that, so I guess you have convinced me that it's better to have the murder schemes be accessible to all players. I do feel that certain extremely powerful vampires, especially those with lore, should only be able to assassinated by those they consider their equal though, but I guess I can just roleplay that and choose not to murder them.
Cheers.
Well I have no idea who you play as and who your targets are. Being landed offers degree of protection, the higher the rank the better, but it doesn't reflect on a personal power of vampire. neither lore- nor code-wise. Menele starts as count, Helena is not empress either. Mary the Black is a duchess too, while all scholars agree that she is steady on her way to diablerize Caine, eventually.

Age does matter, so I have to ask, did you land a kill on Methuselah or did you simply check scheme's success rate? The later means little, succesfully completing the scheme often brings disappointment. They are usually immune to mundane methods of assasination. There is new discipline in recent update that might or might not help with that, but I am not in position to check. My current character would not appreciate my sudden interest in necromancy.

Regardless, even elder with just a couple of advanced disciplines is capable to extending scheme to years, which is issue enough if they pose immenent threat, but also the longer scheme lasts, the higher chance of it being exposed, your agents caught, thus lowering your chance of success. That unless, of course, if your scheme power is greater than their scheme resistance. But that in turn in means that they are your peers, and the game is fair.

Neonates are easy to kill, but they survive by not standing on the way. If they need to die, it's their fault. There were hordes of them who perished silly, we just don't remember them usually.
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I'm also having a huge issue with a Family Feud, the enemy family is able to keep murdering my family members even though they are too far to interact with, i can't even kill them and they seem to be able to do it without any drawbacks.
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Family Feud

I would suggest to disable Friends&Foes DLC. In my opinion It's questionable addition to vanilla CK3 and is completely outlandish when playing PoD.
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