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Boss 22 Mar, 2024 @ 2:42pm
Grand Tournaments and Other Missing?
Not sure why these were locked out for everyone but Brujah. Same with Universities. Both were fairly fun mechanics.

They're also missing for Revenants, even if you're a solo clan. And I imagine they're also missing for Hunters.

Now, to offset the "lOrE" reason on how it doesn't make sense... Honestly, I don't see it at all. It makes perfect sense if you're the type of vampiric ruler that wants to run it. Granted, I suppose part of the issue comes from the AI over utilizing it, and I'm unsure if there's a way to make it extremely rare for others... but I do think you should be able to unlock it. If through a Dynasty decision. These are content rich, fun mechanics that the game included.

But again. Not against lore. What IS against lore is vampires traveling in the medieval ages across MILES and SEAS just to hunt or do schemes. I'm fairly sure in the WoD books I recall how rare it was for vampires in the modern age to travel. I can't even begin to imagine how much more difficult it would be utilizing caravans and horses and having to plot out sun coverage. Also, Universities are poggers.
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Karde  [developer] 23 Mar, 2024 @ 8:16am 
Tournaments in CK3 involve drinking, eating and having contests in broad daylight. All things that vampires can't do. If someone wants to rewrite all the vanilla events to make sense in a "midnight tourament" context, they are welcome to do so and we would be happy to integrate it.

Universities in CK3 are intended for mortal rulers, opening them to immortals would just mean that the entire map would end up education 5 given time. They are also wag more of a "American Pie : Medieval Edition" than anything actually resembling medieval universites. For starters, rulers just didn't go randomly to universities. CK3's take on it is basically frat parties, drinking and eating, things vampires can't do. So same issue as above, but probably not salvageable at all even if we were to change all the events because of the balance issue.
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Freeze 23 Mar, 2024 @ 12:16pm 
A rare event to level your education would be cool though.The university vessel might not be great, but i like the idea.
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Sparc  [developer] 30 Mar, 2024 @ 10:29am 
"I'm fairly sure in the WoD books I recall how rare it was for vampires in the modern age to travel."

In canon, there is a Baali, Nergal/Shaitan from the middle east (Second City) who sometime before 1116 CE to Olmecs and becomes worshiped as Huitzilopochtli, and has a hand in the construction of Tenochtitlan.Just our placement of canon vampires in 1230 have many of them having traveled quite from their site of embrace.

"What IS against lore is vampires traveling in the medieval ages across MILES and SEAS just to hunt"
The default, preferred "hunt" method for vitae now is the "hunt in capital" journey, which keeps you close to your haven/capital/primary title.

"or do schemes."

Schemes happen where the target are. If we disabled all schemes to only happening in the vampire's location, I think there would be big complaints.

If you want to do tournaments, the Fae have access to Tournaments.
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