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GrandMajora 2 Sep, 2024 @ 11:52pm
How Do I Change Sabbat Doctrines?
Anybody know how you get to the point where you can choose doctrines for the Sabbat? Such as what clans are welcomed or criminal, whether or not to allow infernalism, what their stance on the Masquerade is, est?

I could have sworn I've done it before, but now every time I try to play a Sabbat and become its founding regent, it doesn't give me the option. The Sabbat just founds itself and I have no control over how to organize it.

Is this because I always choose the Path of Cathari for my new religion?
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GrandMajora 4 Sep, 2024 @ 8:49pm 
I still await an answer to this mystery!
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random encounter 5 Sep, 2024 @ 4:24am 
Well, one of the devs mde a really harsh assessment regarding religious reforms:
"Karde [developer] 23 Aug @ 10:09am
Reforming religions isn't really supported by the mod, a warning to that effect will be added to the next update"
The topic was reforming hunter religions.
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random encounter 5 Sep, 2024 @ 4:27am 
I haz grapes claims that he has fixed the particular issue of blood gnosticism and uploaded some code. I personally only had problems with hunter religions so far. It would make sense for the doctrine of the shadow inquisition to be fixed at "total intolerance". That´s their thing, really.
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GrandMajora 5 Sep, 2024 @ 6:34am 
Well, I'm more curious about the Sabbat, rather than the Shadow Inquisition.

In the past, when the Sabbat was first founding itself, I had the option to help vote on its core tenets and beliefs. However, that option now seems to have been removed for some reason. The Sabbat just automatically founds itself, while you're given a selection of Paths of Enlightenment to choose from instead.

The same does not apply to the founding of the Camarilla, where everyone involved at the Convention of Thorns has the chance to dictate the Camarilla's tenets and laws before choosing whether or not to join it.
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random encounter 5 Sep, 2024 @ 3:06pm 
Well, look at Karde´s super self-critical response to a seemingly minor issue with blood gnosticism and the non-response to your fairly similar question. It would seem to me that you have found a sore point and are happily digging at it.
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GrandMajora 5 Sep, 2024 @ 5:24pm 
Originally posted by random encounter:
Well, look at Karde´s super self-critical response to a seemingly minor issue with blood gnosticism and the non-response to your fairly similar question. It would seem to me that you have found a sore point and are happily digging at it.

What the hell are you babbling about?

I'm talking about when you are FOUNDING THE SABBAT. Meaning that the Sabbat religion has not been created yet, you are in the process of creating it.

You get to vote on stuff for the Camarilla, but I can't figure out how to vote for the Sabbat, even though I'm pretty sure I've managed to do it before. So unless it was patched out of the mod at some point, I'm confused.
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Karde  [developer] 6 Sep, 2024 @ 1:33am 
The dev who did this part of the mod now longer really works with us and his work wasn't really well ewplained so.... we don't know yet. We are slowly going over what he left behind to understand and improve on it but haven't done so yet for the sabbat
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