+25 accuraty
-50% clip size

+20% damage bonus
-on kill 400% more time till half-life 3 comes out

+20% damage bonus
+10% more pellets per shot.
-10% reloading speed
-10% firing speed
-Team coloured laser sight can be seen.

I suggest the following...

Idea One:
+ 35% to accuracy
- Laser sight gives player away
Idea Two:
i Shoots a slug rather than shotgun pellets
- Laser sight gives player away

Not going to lie, these ideas aren't perfect, but it makes sense to me. I don't really see justification for there being a damage increase or penalty due to it just being a regular shotgun. It makes sense to me for it to be either more "accurate" due to the laser sight.

maybe remove lazer pointer?

Pros
+60% accuracy
+20% damage

Cons
+30% bullet spread
2 round clip
-20% firing speed

+60% more accuracy
+20% more damage
+15% Firing Speed
-Laser sight can be seen
-10% slower reloading speed

Clip size is the same as stock Shotgun.

Pros:
+Shows the laser sight everywhere you aim
+50% more accuracy

Cons:
-Only 4 shells in the clip
-30% slower reload

Originally posted by The Wild West Pyro:

+60% more accuracy
+20% more damage
+15% Firing Speed
-Laser sight can be seen
-10% slower reloading speed

Clip size is the same as stock Shotgun.

But only 4 rounds

Pros:

+25% more damage
On hit:Bleed for 5 seconds
30% more accurate
Laser pointer lets you line up your shots.


Cons:

Only 3 Shots in the clip
50% longer reaload
When an enemy is within a certain distance of you, you gain an effect called "Nervous" or something similar. It negates all the good effects of the weapon execpt the laser pointer and part of the bleed (Bleed lasts for one second) and instead you are 50% less accurate with all weapons and deal 15% less damage with your sentry, and reload 20% slower.

Great for long-range harrasment, and for getting rid of spies with the bleed. Not as good for cramped spaces, so you need to use it in wide-open spaces.

Pros
+20% damage bonus.
+15% reload speed.

Cons
Shoots a slug shot rather then a spread shot.
-20% clip size.

how bout make it 0.50cal SBR like RW Ash-12 ?
ie it had then:
main firemode - shot slug, isntead of stock shotty, pellets.
50% more dammage, more[20%?] flatness, but same range.
3x times less fire rate.
alt-fire does pellets shots.
30% wider spread than stock shotgun, but 60% less dammage.
20% less ammo no carrier/user.

Originally posted by Epicdude66adam:

Pros:

+25% more damage
On hit:Bleed for 5 seconds
Penetrates players


Cons:

Only 1 Shot
50% longer reaload

If it only has 1 shot then you won't be reloading.

Originally posted by Satokech:

Originally posted by Epicdude66adam:

Pros:

+25% more damage
On hit:Bleed for 5 seconds
Penetrates players


Cons:

Only 1 Shot
50% longer reaload

If it only has 1 shot then you won't be reloading.

I think he meant clip size.

Originally posted by Ionic:

+20% damage bonus
+10% more pellets per shot.
-10% reloading speed
-10% firing speed
-Team coloured laser sight can be seen.

YES PLEASE