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OWB - The Exile
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patryk_wesierski16 25 Apr, 2021 @ 7:53am
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Since mod is in early phase I wanted post here some of my ideas, at begining there should be more info about lore, for example who your leader is like and what he done so brotherhood exiled him, seing that many northern nations have things that would be helpfull in future goals both paths could focus on conquering all northern nations including heaven gate, as for focus tree I have many ideas, first part of tree could have decisions beetwen staying true to brotherhood mission and Babylonian ambition for permanent exile we could prepare for californian crusade by reshaping your nation in babylonian image and striking deal with washington brotherhood, ceaser legion and heaven gate in reconclition path adronikos could persuade lost hils to stay by showing that he never abondoned brotherhood mision, he would redirect his crusade goal which would result in reducing sthrengh of the national spirit and preparing for new expedition for technology, what you think about it ?
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Pontifex  [developer] 25 Apr, 2021 @ 4:23pm 
Hi! Thanks for the suggestions. First off, I do agree that the lore should be expanded upon in the beginning. It is just a matter of the best way to explain it, but I do plan to add more content in that regard. I have actually roadmaped the entire focus tree and how I want it to go. It is pretty close to what you suggested. Do not want to spoil the story, but the reconciliation path is not all that it seems and the permanent exile path will be more conquest heavy (I actually hinted at this but you will deal with the Washington Brotherhood not just with war). I initially did want to go full Byzantine Empire in the mod, but after consideration and going through the story, I think it is a little bit of a stretch. Instead, it will incorporate themes of the Byzantine and Ancient Empires, but still be closer to a fanatic Brotherhood. Thanks for the suggestions and like I said, not spoiling anything, but some of what you said is actually already planned!
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Genuinely Catnip 27 Apr, 2021 @ 4:06pm 
A small but nifty idea. Depending on what you choose when it comes to viritbirds, Andronikos is in either Adv PA or in a virtibird. Not sure how that works but i think it would be a neat little thing. Unsure how it would work but it shows your choices do impact the world a little. Lets something as "big" as that be shown.
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Big O'l Patriot 27 Apr, 2021 @ 10:49pm 
IDEA. I,ve got a great Idea, doesn't require much althought I don't know anything about modding. If the western brotherhood capitulates you will automaticly get a new focus called "No home, only the road." and in the about 12 or more focus trees you deal with the instability and refuges caused by the western brotherhoods capitulation, even the NCR trying to track down the rements which is you. although you get buffs from the western brotherhoods escaped paladians and knights and so on so a last stand. OR chose to migrat but losing alot of people in the proccess escaping to the mountions or something sorry for bad grammer
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Cebo 30 Apr, 2021 @ 5:01am 
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Mr Zoat 16 May, 2021 @ 5:39am 
I'd like it if the recruitment law changed when you break with the Brotherhood. It's actually quite hard to meet the requirements for increasing recruitment if you don't do it early on.
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patryk_wesierski16 2 Jun, 2021 @ 11:19am 
Since there is focus branch for war with washington brotherhood I get Ideas for one where we ally with them, to reach for it we would agre on maw compromise and after that we can progress with negotiations, one wrong decision and war would be invetable so we wouldn't be blocked, but if we would succed immortal will be your ally ally: he will send to us his black paladins, help develop black forges, help with researching power armors and "help" us with the tribals, unfortuntely it's basically deal with devil and it will cost lot of stability, what you think about it ?
Last edited by patryk_wesierski16; 3 Jun, 2021 @ 5:22am
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Pontifex  [developer] 3 Jun, 2021 @ 8:05pm 
I like the idea of an event chain where you could effectively become allies. To expand upon your idea, maybe after you conquer some of his land he reaches out with a proposal. I really do like the idea and will add it to my list. It will probably be added after I finish the main focus tree though, as I want to get 1.0 out as soon as I can. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Mr Zoat 6 Jun, 2021 @ 3:08am 
Please make 'Rigorous Training' bypassable if you already have Military Academy Training.
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Pontifex  [developer] 7 Jun, 2021 @ 1:55pm 
@Mr Zoat
Thanks for that, I will add it in the next update!
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Mr Zoat 11 Jun, 2021 @ 8:02am 
Just finished a full playthrough. Not sure if I was doing it wrong or not, but the war with the Washington Brotherhood went by faster than the focuses preparing for that war. I suggest either making them bypassable if the Washington Brotherhood no longer exists, making them quicker, or reorganising things a little so that you can do them before the war starts.
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patryk_wesierski16 11 Jun, 2021 @ 10:55am 
I think that something should be done about maw compromise, right now it's blocking rest of the tree, I had the idea that iit could unlock second option for alliance with immortal
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Big O'l Patriot 2 Jul, 2021 @ 4:50pm 
Replace Enclave focus tree part with a small enclave attack into the the "our new capital" decide in the focus tree "our new capital" have effects of how they attack and an extra bit for defense and response, example go left and enclave attacks your city, go right and enclave attacks vault
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Big O'l Patriot 2 Jul, 2021 @ 4:52pm 
to make it clear im not talking a enclave takeover but more just a infulstructure attack spelt wrong, which introduces you to the faction
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patryk_wesierski16 26 Jul, 2021 @ 3:29am 
I know I am late but I got idea for heaven gate, its bases on byzantine empire having adopted christianity as religion, its starts with encouring heaven gate, at the same time brotherhood expedition found library with book about bizantine empire and andronikos would learn about byzantine religion being christianity which gave us second option to instead strike deal with them we would adopt heaven gate religion as official and offer them autonomy ( this mean pupeting them and creating country with system similiar like vatican with saint michael as pope) altrough we dont gonna have steam cores national spirit we would get advanced power armor and vechiles scheamtic and some factories with extra infrastucture thanks to steam I know i am late but I dont have internet at home so please understand me
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Pontifex  [developer] 27 Jul, 2021 @ 11:14am 
@patryk_wesierski16
No problem, I am always looking for suggestions. I like the idea of puppeting them and having them as a religious authority, though I tend to not go in the direction of pure Byzantine lore, as it seems a bit too unrealistic in the world of Fallout. That being said I will look into the puppet part, as I think it would give the player more options. Thanks!
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