k well if it's a nail gun, how about

+33% clip sice (so it is 8)

On reload: Reloads all ammo at the same time

-10% reload speed

-10% dmg

-10% firing speed

+10% projectile spread

I would still use it with these stats. I would take it more seriously than almost any other non-stock scout weapon besides the baby-faced.

Maybe, but they said it was a Scattergun. i mean, the model is a Scattergun.

I was thinking more like the heavies family buisness but with

On reload: Reloads all ammo at the same time

and -20% reload speed to balance it out.

Actually, full reload, but slower, could work. One way to use the scattergun to fire only one or two shots, and then retreat and reload; that tactic will become impossible with enough extra reload time. I would say 250% more reload time though, rather than someting like 110% or 120%. This coupled with increased fire rate would allow a playstyle for the scout that valve specifically tried to avoid to begin with, but it might be worth revisiting.

On an unrelated note, a beggar's bazooka like scattergun might be interesting for scout.

Originally posted by Kaidelong:

Actually, full reload, but slower, could work. One way to use the scattergun to fire only one or two shots, and then retreat and reload; that tactic will become impossible with enough extra reload time. I would say 250% more reload time though, rather than someting like 110% or 120%. This coupled with increased fire rate would allow a playstyle for the scout that valve specifically tried to avoid to begin with, but it might be worth revisiting.

On an unrelated note, a beggar's bazooka like scattergun might be interesting for scout.

how would that work?

How about this?

+100% clip size

+100% primary ammo

-reload full clip at once

+125% reload speed

-60% firing speed(like the soda popper but with less recoil and continous fire)

-65% damage penalty(does about 40 damage at point-blank range)

the nail flys about twice as fast as the syringe gun syringes.

yeah its like a nail shooting pistol but at least its balanced i think.

its soo cool gun

Originally posted by Joke Train:

Originally posted by Sweddy:

+33% clip sice (so it is 8)

On reload: Reloads all ammo at the same time. (So you don't have to reload 6 times to get a full clip like the Scattergun.)

-10% reload speed (you reload it at the same time, so it needs to be slower.)

-10% damage dealt (cause you can shoot more before you have to reload.)

Originally posted by Nyan Hetzer Potato Leprechaun:

On reload: Reloads all ammo at the same time

and -20% reload speed to balance it out.

Are you people retarded? :golem:
Like seriously, those ideas are so bad that I'm genuinely worried about your mental health :golem:

dont hear you coming up with anything

Originally posted by OldSkoolGamer2202:

How about this?

+100% clip size

+100% primary ammo

-reload full clip at once

+125% reload speed

-60% firing speed(like the soda popper but with less recoil and continous fire)

-65% damage penalty(does about 40 damage at point-blank range)

the nail flys about twice as fast as the syringe gun syringes.

yeah its like a nail shooting pistol but at least its balanced i think.

So its a scattergun with instant reload and a larger clip but you cant kill anything. Seems legit.

How about:

-9 pellets in shells

+20% Damage bonus

+33% Mag Size

-10% move speed (Because The Sten was Fegeling Heavy)

+ Reloads via Magazine (Not lever)

-10 Firing speed

No random crits

Originally posted by o.W.n Wonderstein:

dont hear you coming up with anything

You want my opinion?
You want my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ opinion?
Well, you can have my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ opinion.

level 1-100 What The ♥♥♥♥

+On Hit: Builds Boost

+Run speed increased with Boost

--34% clip size

-10% slower move speed on wearer

-Boost reduced on air jumps

Originally posted by Joke Train:

Originally posted by o.W.n Wonderstein:

dont hear you coming up with anything

You want my opinion?
You want my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ opinion?
Well, you can have my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ opinion.

Pseudonailgun

level 1-100 What The ♥♥♥♥

+On Hit: Builds Boost

+Run speed increased with Boost

--34% clip size

-10% slower move speed on wearer

-Boost reduced on air jumps

That's just babyfaces

i think that it should be

+33% clip size, about 8 shots

-shot acts like crusaders crossbow

+25% damage

Originally posted by OldSkoolGamer2202:

How about this?

+100% clip size

+100% primary ammo

-reload full clip at once

+125% reload speed

-60% firing speed(like the soda popper but with less recoil and continous fire)

-65% damage penalty(does about 40 damage at point-blank range)

the nail flys about twice as fast as the syringe gun syringes.

yeah its like a nail shooting pistol but at least its balanced i think.

You trollin'? This is on the opposite side of balanced. Plus too many stats, take out the 125% reload speed and the 100% primary ammo, and change the reduced firing speed from 60% slower to something like 40% slower. Although, that is still not balanced. Makes it cleaner though.

My idea is:

+2 Shells in clip (6 to 10)

+40% Accuracy (kind of like the old Baby Face's Blaster)

+20% Fire Rate

-30% Damage

-15% slower reload speed