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Res Publica
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Plushie 29 Sep, 2021 @ 2:37pm
Clarification: What determines which families are available?
I've been playing with the senate system for about 50 years in-game, and am becoming increasingly confused what is making families show up in the roaster of available families.

Three times now I've been a successful, liked and respected family patrician in control of the republic, and then randomly a nobody family with little to no respect will win the election, and the previous family I was playing as is no longer available (and to date, about 30ish years from the first time this happened, that family never returns, regardless of titles held, wealth, troops ect.).

Is this intentional? Surely in my kingdom with 6 duchies, a family that holds 3, and has 10,000 gold and 8,000 troops at their disposal (most owned by the patrician himself) would at least have a shot. Is it a hidden term limitation (as in, a single family can only rule so many terms?) or is there another explanation.

Other than this, this has completely revitalised CKIII for me, offering a lot of depth and challenge I felt was otherwise lacking, after playing several vanilla playthroughs.
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Plushie 29 Sep, 2021 @ 2:45pm 
Additional note: at this point with three of my most powerful families out of the running for some reason, I actually rarely manage to even reach 5 families available to run for election. This doesn't break the decision luckily (though in one vote one of the people running had two buttons in the decision, and another button was completely empty, because only 3 families were running).

I'm a fairly large republic at this point. Kingdom-tier with 6 duchies. There's definitely enough families to fill that roaster so the only explanation I have is that when families can no longer run for whatever reason, they are removed from availability, and over time less and less families are available until new ones are conquered, or naturally begin in your territory. Unfortunately this means sometimes my character is a single old dude with no wife, no kids, no relatives except dead parents of a different house, and with no money, prestige or piety to their name. I like a challenge but that's a bit extreme.
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Caden335  [developer] 29 Sep, 2021 @ 4:50pm 
Generally the election should get the 5 most powerful families respect-wise.
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Plushie 29 Sep, 2021 @ 5:09pm 
Originally posted by Caden335:
Generally the election should get the 5 most powerful families respect-wise.

Do you have any ideas as to why respected families may be becoming unavailable?

For example, my first family had roughly 14,000 respect. Then suddenly I lost an election to a family with 2,800 respect, and the first family is no longer shown, even though they're still landed and, by all other accounts, far more powerful than who I was then forced to play as. Losing an election makes sense no doubt, a family should be able to lose regardless of how powerful they are, but this complete disappearance from senate politics after losing seems unintentional to me.
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Caden335  [developer] 29 Sep, 2021 @ 5:19pm 
I do not. I'll check on that now, since you caught me right as I'm working on bugfixes.
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Plushie 29 Sep, 2021 @ 6:28pm 
Thanks so much! Love your work, this mod has so much potential and is already a lot of fun to play.
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Greed (Combo Goblin) 7 Mar, 2022 @ 4:34am 
+1 I am having a similar issue where random nobodies with 500 respect are randomly getting allocated tens of thousands in every election
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