Originally posted by Markie Chan (Kon):

I was thinking something like
+Restores to Max health
+Regens in 30 seconds
+ refills twice as fast in water when submerged in water
+Extinguished fire on scout
+ Right click to throw on ground ( Same effects except only restores half of their health )
-NO offensive secondary

( Regen and fire removal are not actually listed in the weapon description )

Like the stats but would be too op.

Maybe:

+Restores to Max health While active health regens (at speed medics does with bonesaw out)
+Regens in 30 seconds
+ refills twice 1.5x as fast in water when submerged in water
+Extinguished fire on scout
+ Right click to throw on ground ( Same effects except only restores half of their health ) (slower regen)
-NO offensive secondary
-More explosive damage taken on user (glass breaking)

Originally posted by DuckBillHatypus:

Yeah that is much better.

Originally posted by DuckBillHatypus:

Originally posted by Markie Chan (Kon):

I was thinking something like
+Restores to Max health
+Regens in 30 seconds
+ refills twice as fast in water when submerged in water
+Extinguished fire on scout
+ Right click to throw on ground ( Same effects except only restores half of their health )
-NO offensive secondary

( Regen and fire removal are not actually listed in the weapon description )

Like the stats but would be too op.

Maybe:

+Restores to Max health While active health regens (at speed medics does with bonesaw out)
+Regens in 30 seconds
+ refills twice 1.5x as fast in water when submerged in water
+Extinguished fire on scout
+ Right click to throw on ground ( Same effects except only restores half of their health ) (slower regen)
-NO offensive secondary
-More explosive damage taken on user (glass breaking)

I like the change you did but i was thinking to add another affect to this.
+When submerged in water 1.5x faster regen and changes to salt water (This damages enermy players for 4 damage and lasts 7 seconds)
-Salt Water can't be used on self.

This is just an idea.

at risk of sounding like an idiot, i think it should be used as a anti-pyro item. ex: After cosumption, player cannot be set of fire for __ sec. can be thrown at team mates to put fires out and at the same time restores a bit of health. with a balancing of like - 15 health and no offensive secondary.

maby this while drinked kan stil use weapon and still gifs u the bonk efekt for 50% of the original time and kost 20% more time to reload or less i dont know

The health regen and fire extinguisher effects seem fitting, but shouldn't it also coat the enemy in water and not heal them just like the Crusaders Crossbow?

With the enemy coated in water, they're vulnerable to Neon Annihilators and the like, Spies cloaking device is treated the same way as if he just jumped out of some water, and maybe screw up vision for a bit.

What if its just water. And it does nothing.

Acts like bonk except
+25% movement speed with bonk
+can fire gun while invunerable
-50% invunerability lenghth

Originally posted by level94836:

Acts like bonk except
+25% movement speed with bonk
+can fire gun while invunerable
-50% invunerability lenghth

that would be pretty op

Originally posted by DuckBillHatypus:

Originally posted by level94836:

Acts like bonk except
+25% movement speed with bonk
+can fire gun while invunerable
-50% invunerability lenghth

that would be pretty op

-50% invurnerability length. thats what makes it balanced.

Originally posted by level94836:

Originally posted by DuckBillHatypus:

that would be pretty op

-50% invurnerability length. thats what makes it balanced.

nah, cause even for that time the two hit kill scatergun (at close range) and high movement could let you wipe out an entire team

Originally posted by DuckBillHatypus:

Originally posted by level94836:

-50% invurnerability length. thats what makes it balanced.

nah, cause even for that time the two hit kill scatergun (at close range) and high movement could let you wipe out an entire team

dude a normal bonk lasts 20 seconds
this would last 10 seconds, tell me how thats possible in 10 seconds.

Originally posted by level94836:

Originally posted by DuckBillHatypus:

nah, cause even for that time the two hit kill scatergun (at close range) and high movement could let you wipe out an entire team

dude a normal bonk lasts 20 seconds
this would last 10 seconds, tell me how thats possible in 10 seconds.

drink water, run into crowed area with scatergun, spam fire

ten seconds is longer than you think, more so when you can move faster

Originally posted by DuckBillHatypus:

Originally posted by level94836:

dude a normal bonk lasts 20 seconds
this would last 10 seconds, tell me how thats possible in 10 seconds.

drink water, run into crowed area with scatergun, spam fire

ten seconds is longer than you think, more so when you can move faster

well you can get airblasted easily by pyros. it can be countered.

Originally posted by level94836:

Originally posted by DuckBillHatypus:

drink water, run into crowed area with scatergun, spam fire

ten seconds is longer than you think, more so when you can move faster

well you can get airblasted easily by pyros. it can be countered.

I guess, but still, it feels a little op. Maybe without the speed boost it might be better?