I like new update. Old limbs were too OP, you can easy steal them and with 50lvl you had 100 str or 100 dex.

So many haters because they used to play Kenshi in easy mode ^^

Originally posted by D i o r:

I like new update. Old limbs were too OP, you can easy steal them and with 50lvl you had 100 str or 100 dex.

So many haters because they used to play Kenshi in easy mode ^^

Glad to hear it! I'll probably balance the limbs more, and as new limbs come out from the community i'll probably add those as well. I expect many people will like having both versions available at least.

Originally posted by Atlas:

Originally posted by D i o r:

I like new update. Old limbs were too OP, you can easy steal them and with 50lvl you had 100 str or 100 dex.

So many haters because they used to play Kenshi in easy mode ^^

Glad to hear it! I'll probably balance the limbs more, and as new limbs come out from the community i'll probably add those as well. I expect many people will like having both versions available at least.

Yep, now you can please both sides.

Ok so what is the point of blade legs if they dont deal extra damage? I played on genesis and it said it added dmg, it never felt like so but now that I installed this mod without genesis I see it has no bonuses only drawbacks. Why not give it extra damage or a higher health pool? they are BLADES ON UR LEGS, I dont expect to be a tank with em but I do expect if i poke someone in the face with em that they will deal damage

Originally posted by Coƒƒee & Kush:

Ok so what is the point of blade legs if they dont deal extra damage? I played on genesis and it said it added dmg, it never felt like so but now that I installed this mod without genesis I see it has no bonuses only drawbacks. Why not give it extra damage or a higher health pool? they are BLADES ON UR LEGS, I dont expect to be a tank with em but I do expect if i poke someone in the face with em that they will deal damage

So when i was originally making this update for jewys overhaul and balancing legs my idea was HIGH damage through MA bonus with super low durability.
However, well after the implementation i ran the statistics by shidan who basically told me...ma bonus doesnt work. At all. It literally does nothing. The only stat that affects damage is str bonus.

Meaning...literally every single limb needs to be rebalanced around this stat or lack there of. In some cases this is nothing. In other cases this pretty much breaks certain limbs. (Like the sword limbs)

Originally posted by Atlas:

Meaning...literally every single limb needs to be rebalanced around this stat or lack there of. In some cases this is nothing. In other cases this pretty much breaks certain limbs. (Like the sword limbs)

Does this mean the sword limbs are just for show? If so, is there a way you, or i, can add bonus damage to them either attack damage multiplier or unarmed damage?
I haven't played in FCS a whole lot but i've noticed there's some armor pieces that give the attack damage buff, and there's some limbs that give unarmed damage, i just don't know exactly how to apply them.

Edit: By MA do you mean martial arts or melee attack?

Originally posted by Shyzle:

Originally posted by Atlas:

Meaning...literally every single limb needs to be rebalanced around this stat or lack there of. In some cases this is nothing. In other cases this pretty much breaks certain limbs. (Like the sword limbs)

Does this mean the sword limbs are just for show? If so, is there a way you, or i, can add bonus damage to them either attack damage multiplier or unarmed damage?
I haven't played in FCS a whole lot but i've noticed there's some armor pieces that give the attack damage buff, and there's some limbs that give unarmed damage, i just don't know exactly how to apply them.

As stated. Unarmed damage bonus doesnt do anything. The only thing that affects damage is strength bonus on the limbs

Dang. Is it just because buffs on the limbs don't work? I recently tried the Tifa lockhart mod and her armor has the attack damage x 5.00 buff or something and it causes her martial arts to hit like 200's. Would that buff work on limbs? Just looking for ways to satisfy my play through currently, the sword limbs look so cool and wanted to make a kamikaze sort of martial artist that runs in to weaken a group before sending the team in

Originally posted by Shyzle:

Dang. Is it just because buffs on the limbs don't work? I recently tried the Tifa lockhart mod and her armor has the attack damage x 5.00 buff or something and it causes her martial arts to hit like 200's. Would that buff work on limbs? Just looking for ways to satisfy my play through currently, the sword limbs look so cool and wanted to make a kamikaze sort of martial artist that runs in to weaken a group before sending the team in

Buffs from armor may work indirectly but as for limb damage its just flat strength.

Like i stated I'll have to give a full balance to all limbs. Which likely wont happen until im done with genesis update. Which could be a while. I've been pecking at the update for this over time. Its ...20% ish done. Its not hard work. Just busy work. And lots of testing. A new set of models for the leviathan also need a tweaked texture. Life situation hit me sideways so im currently taking modding much much slower.

really enjoy your mods!
if we're talking balancing it think the limbs that aren't mentioned here (bdc) should start at 1,000,000 for lowest quality and get more expensive with higher quality. Still too easy to obtain especially if you smuggle. i play with UWE which makes money harder to obtain and still found it too easy to get 4 masterwork bdc limbs.

Hi, I was checking some limbs and I see that Masterwork KLR arm is way inferior to Skeleton arm. KLR costs more, weights more, but has only +14% in str and 20 HP more than Skeleton. On the other side Skeleton has +10% in str,dex and crossbows and costs 5k less. How I see it, you will always go for Skeleton. Only in rare specific cases you can go KLR, but I don't know who will want -25% in dex for additional +4% in str.

@Atlas
The KLR arm and leg nerfs are a bit (read way) over the top. KLR limbs are funnily enough, almost as bad as eco limbs aside from the str losses and extra hp - but the extra hp isn't nearly enough to justify the -30% athletics.

There is also the unrelated fact that fogmen heads are still edible.

Originally posted by Wyr:

@Atlas
The KLR arm and leg nerfs are a bit (read way) over the top. KLR limbs are funnily enough, almost as bad as eco limbs aside from the str losses and extra hp - but the extra hp isn't nearly enough to justify the -30% athletics.

There is also the unrelated fact that fogmen heads are still edible.

They're edible for some races yes. Hivers, fogmen, cannibals.
As for the balance sure but every limb set now has a purpose. BDC are top of the line and "rare". But otherwise everything else is hard to come by and you have to pick and choose your poison.

Originally posted by Atlas:

Originally posted by Wyr:

@Atlas
The KLR arm and leg nerfs are a bit (read way) over the top. KLR limbs are funnily enough, almost as bad as eco limbs aside from the str losses and extra hp - but the extra hp isn't nearly enough to justify the -30% athletics.

There is also the unrelated fact that fogmen heads are still edible.

They're edible for some races yes. Hivers, fogmen, cannibals.
As for the balance sure but every limb set now has a purpose. BDC are top of the line and "rare". But otherwise everything else is hard to come by and you have to pick and choose your poison.

They're edible for everyone, my greenlander ate my fog prince head - not so pleasant to think about. I fixed it in my home copy of the mod (As well as setting the price back to the vanilla amount, just because there's more heads to sell, doesn't mean it's easier to get a fog prince head).

Originally posted by Wyr:

Originally posted by Atlas:

They're edible for some races yes. Hivers, fogmen, cannibals.
As for the balance sure but every limb set now has a purpose. BDC are top of the line and "rare". But otherwise everything else is hard to come by and you have to pick and choose your poison.

They're edible for everyone, my greenlander ate my fog prince head - not so pleasant to think about. I fixed it in my home copy of the mod (As well as setting the price back to the vanilla amount, just because there's more heads to sell, doesn't mean it's easier to get a fog prince head).

Hmm whens the last time you updated? I fixed the edible heads over a year ago. Oct 18th 2021.
The price was changed because the limb vendors in the town of limm have a massive markup for all organic parts. Eggs, heads, limbs, ganglions, alpha head etc etc.