no

all of that but when you put it away you take 10 damage.

Can back-stab while cloaked BUT will uncloak for 30 sec without being able to cloak again
-200% on body stab

Originally posted by randomaspland:

Can back-stab while cloaked BUT will uncloak for 30 sec without being able to cloak again
-200% on body stab

I think the being able to stab out of cloak is great, however... I would make a few adjustments.
-15 cloak (15% less cloak time in general)
+Can stab out of invis at cost of 25% cloak (doesn't decloak unless out of cloak from stabbing)
-Can put self to negative cloak (If I have 5% cloak and stab out of cloak, I then have -20% cloak)

If it's half knuckleduster and half knife, then I have some ideas for stats myself.

Originally posted by IrishSpy -TPF-:

Originally posted by randomaspland:

Can back-stab while cloaked BUT will uncloak for 30 sec without being able to cloak again
-200% on body stab

I think the being able to stab out of cloak is great, however... I would make a few adjustments.
-15 cloak (15% less cloak time in general)
+Can stab out of invis at cost of 25% cloak (doesn't decloak unless out of cloak from stabbing)
-Can put self to negative cloak (If I have 5% cloak and stab out of cloak, I then have -20% cloak)

(This is quoted just for reference to some of the ideas), I am not responding to it or using it along with my idea)


-15% longer cloak and decloak time
-20% cloak meter when you backstab an enemy
-15% cloak
+Can stab out of invis at the cost of 30% cloak (only usable with 30% cloak to take)
+25% body stab damage
+15 max health

My idea
+2 health when done damage
+10 damage
+ Faster stabbing speed
- 25 max health

What me and some other folks decided in another stats chat on this weapon:


Pros:

• Instant cloak on backstab
  
• +30% Sentry damage resistance
  
• Silent Decloak
  
• 20% Faster Decloak
  
• Silent Killer

Cons:

• 20% Slower cloaking
  
• -20% Damage resistance
  
  This seems pretty fair, if you think not, reply to me!

Originally posted by JMPWNᶰᵉᶦˣᵗˢ:

What me and some other folks decided in another stats chat on this weapon:

The Saboteur's Sabre

Pros:

• Instant cloak on backstab
  
• +30% Sentry damage resistance
  
• Silent Decloak
  
• 20% Faster Decloak
  
• Silent Killer

Cons:

• 20% Slower cloaking
  
• -20% Damage resistance
  
  This seems pretty fair, if you think not, reply to me!

gg no re

Originally posted by IrishSpy:

Originally posted by randomaspland:

Can back-stab while cloaked BUT will uncloak for 30 sec without being able to cloak again
-200% on body stab

I think the being able to stab out of cloak is great, however... I would make a few adjustments.
-15 cloak (15% less cloak time in general)
+Can stab out of invis at cost of 25% cloak (doesn't decloak unless out of cloak from stabbing)
-Can put self to negative cloak (If I have 5% cloak and stab out of cloak, I then have -20% cloak)

Originally posted by Cynical:

If it's half knuckleduster and half knife, then I have some ideas for stats myself.

Originally posted by IrishSpy -TPF-:

I think the being able to stab out of cloak is great, however... I would make a few adjustments.
-15 cloak (15% less cloak time in general)
+Can stab out of invis at cost of 25% cloak (doesn't decloak unless out of cloak from stabbing)
-Can put self to negative cloak (If I have 5% cloak and stab out of cloak, I then have -20% cloak)

(This is quoted just for reference to some of the ideas), I am not responding to it or using it along with my idea)


-15% longer cloak and decloak time
-20% cloak meter when you backstab an enemy
-15% cloak
+Can stab out of invis at the cost of 30% cloak (only usable with 30% cloak to take)
+25% body stab damage
+15 max health

Originally posted by Redmund:

My idea
+2 health when done damage
+10 damage
+ Faster stabbing speed
- 25 max health

Originally posted by JMPWN:

What me and some other folks decided in another stats chat on this weapon:

The Saboteur's Sabre

Pros:

• Instant cloak on backstab
  
• +30% Sentry damage resistance
  
• Silent Decloak
  
• 20% Faster Decloak
  
• Silent Killer

Cons:

• 20% Slower cloaking
  
• -20% Damage resistance
  
  This seems pretty fair, if you think not, reply to me!

That Good of all of you.
Do y'all like this idea of my?

The Saboteur's Sabre
Level 15 China Knife

+On Backstabbed:Restored 50% Cloak.
+On Backstabbed:Restored 65% Health
+When Health Restored by 65% when Backstab, Can be Overheal maxium by 225. (100)
+20% Fast Weapon Switch.
+45% Fast Weapon Holster.
+Silent Kill:Backstabbed on Enemy will make Corspe Disappear, The Scream will still Remain.

-20% Firing Rate.
-25% Fire Damage Vulnerability on Wearer.
-5.0s More Fire Duration
-0.8s Cloak Drain.

Description:
Make Them Run as a Coward when they Afraid of this Cursed China Knife,
SHOW THEM A FEAR! AND SHOW THEM THEY OWN FATE!! (This Weapons is not Cursed)

Too Overpowered or Too Underpowered?

this is more of a reskin to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

reskin

Either reskin or this...

For every backstab, you get one crit.
For every butterknife, minus 2 hp.
Gain the same speed as the class you're disguised as.
No Random Crits!

Knife doesnt have random crits tho

Originally posted by Communist Ape Foot 69:

Knife doesnt have random crits tho

J O K E

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