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de_sparity
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MetaSamsara 11 Dec, 2014 @ 3:19pm
Suggestions to improve the map
Hey 3kliksphilip.
I really enjoy your work and I'd like to review your map on what I think is wrong and should/could be improved. I'm about to sound negative so keep in mind I'm not mentionning what's cool about your map even if there are a ton of stuff :)


- The biggest issue : the clipping !!

Some places there should be clipping and there is none like these spots :
http://i.imgur.com/TmwayeU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6Y1lFTT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8R8RzkE.jpg

Some places there is clipping when I believe you should remove it (or fix it) :
http://i.imgur.com/TEdeNFc.jpg Here you can't climb on the side which feels totally unnatural.
http://i.imgur.com/Zns8NPp.jpg And you are stuck on the bags up to this point which is stupid considering you can climb it the same exact way from the side.
http://i.imgur.com/ZVeV3yt.jpg I actually like having clipping here but what is this weird block for? I think you should remove it and shorten the place the clipping starts and put it closer to the props, not simply having a smooth invisible slope which feels weird when seeing the props under you.
http://i.imgur.com/TYRBort.jpg This one is just WTF?? You can climb on the crate from against the wall but not on the other sides? Whyyyyy??? If you really want use to be able to climb here just put a displacement but don't leave it up to the player's knowledge of the map.
http://i.imgur.com/lj53yxI.jpg This one is totally useless since we can climb without it and makes me feel like you mistook me for a 8yo who doesn't know about crouch jumping.
http://i.imgur.com/8wEcgSZ.jpg What the ♥♥♥♥ about this one too? you think I can't jump? It feels so unnatural.

Alright I'm done with the clipping part :p


About the texturing/mapping :

I think this texture is not fitting on the wall at all :
http://i.imgur.com/tvVX3u0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/D1yxbOt.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/cSKhJ30.jpg This one is minor but I think you should add a small ledge to the sides because right now it feels like it's uncomplete.
http://i.imgur.com/vA7q3ug.jpg Since this ladder is not attached to the wall, I don't think it should be totally vertical. You should add more angle so it looks more real.

This block is really bothering me too :
http://i.imgur.com/bHTfIVg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9G7ccHc.jpg
Because you can see there's an empty space just by looking where the walls turn and there is never a plain wall like this in any construction. My suggestion is to add some kind of chimney on the inside or removing the part from the outside so it lines up with the inner wall.
http://i.imgur.com/iFu7TPD.jpg I think it would be a good idea to be able to climb on this crate in A, and for this you could add some clipping on this edge like the crates in dust2 (on B site).
http://i.imgur.com/9wK50aN.jpg Why is there a fence on this wall? ^^

I'm done with this part, here for the final part now.


The glitches/OP spots :

My favorite :
http://i.imgur.com/vPtCRkM.jpg
And how to get there :
http://i.imgur.com/96262de.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nZIvJKS.jpg You can get there by opening the door from the inside then jumping from the grave. My suggestion : auto closing the door after a delay or make it so it only opens toward the inside.

http://i.imgur.com/GdQ4zdK.jpg With a boost you can climb on this door.

Alright I'm done with these screenshots, I hope you don't take it the wrong way, I'm just criticizing to help improving the map, I know I can sound a bit harsh some times but I don't intend to sound mean.

Overall I really enjoy your map and I hope it will be in the next operation!
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MetaSamsara 10 Jan, 2015 @ 9:36am 
Do you give a ♥♥♥♥ or did I post this for nothing?
#1
Plakband 25 Jan, 2015 @ 12:37pm 
I think he doesn't care :(
#2
MetaSamsara 29 Jan, 2015 @ 1:45am 
Apparently...
#3
ButtMuncher68 5 Feb, 2015 @ 6:46pm 
whoa good review mangi hope all this is fixed (PLX FIX)
Last edited by ButtMuncher68; 5 Feb, 2015 @ 6:46pm
#4
MetaSamsara 9 Feb, 2015 @ 4:58am 
So, in three days it will be two months being unanswered... I thought you cared Philip. You lost my respect.
Last edited by MetaSamsara; 9 Feb, 2015 @ 4:59am
#5
Biggles159 11 Feb, 2015 @ 1:24pm 
It's so sad that he hsant seen this but he is most likely busy with real-lifey stuff.
#6
3kliksphilip  [developer] 12 Feb, 2015 @ 9:26am 
I'm sorry, I've been busy over the holidays. I do appreciate all of the suggestions and feedback. de_sparity, as far as I'm concerned, is about as complete as I want to make it. I spent MONTHS adjusting things after finishing it and could be there forever, adding to bits and chaning what's already there. I feel more inclined to make a new map where I can use what I've learned from this project, rather than continually tweak a map that has had its day.

But who knows... at some point I might update this map with these suggestions. It's a lot more complicated than just re-compiling it though- it requires a fair bit of time and effort. Thanks again :)
#7
Biggles159 14 Feb, 2015 @ 4:04am 
It's good to see you're still listening, will you be doind a "making of" with your next map?
#8
3kliksphilip  [developer] 14 Feb, 2015 @ 6:28am 
Probably not, it was a HUGE amount of hassle :D Plus de_sparity's was a pretty comprehensive series.
#9
Biggles159 14 Feb, 2015 @ 6:30am 
I understand, hopefully your next map does well and fools on gamebanana give ita 10 ;)
#10
76561198069734099 14 Feb, 2015 @ 11:11am 
Originally posted by 3kliksphilip:
Probably not, it was a HUGE amount of hassle :D Plus de_sparity's was a pretty comprehensive series.

de_kliks hype
#11
Gnalz 18 Mar, 2015 @ 3:30am 
Philipp the radar... The spawnarea and the the place where you can plant the bomb. Would be good to see this on the radar
#12
Dr. Heavy Pootis-Man 14 Apr, 2015 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by Zwizzør:
Do you give a ♥♥♥♥ or did I post this for nothing?
.-.
#13
DG | Tom Da Bomb [S] [D] 4 Aug, 2015 @ 6:39am 
Agreed the map is most likely as done as it can be, theres minor graphical layer bugs but there really not worth fixing, even if you do it usually pushes a problem to another spot. Everyone can always find something "wrong" with a map but for the most part it looks good to me personally. I liked playing it and watching the 13 part series even more :D let alone me and a friend loaded it up after i came across the utube videos while looking for Hammer tutorials, and she spent maybe 5 minutes plaing with the fish in the ice XD very cool touch and liked the glass sound from bullets / knife. Cant wait to see what the future has in store for other maps but i will definitely be following what i can.
P.S. the Anomaly and other grave stones are awesome, really adds something special to the map let alone giving it true character.
#14
Peace 5 Nov, 2015 @ 9:02am 
i played this map on bots and all the time they would go to the op spot you stated
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