Garry's Mod

Garry's Mod

Godzilla (2014)
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TO EVERYONE WANTING AN NPC (Revised)
We are never going to make these models into NPCs. Stop asking!

Apoc Hedgie and I have been porting ragdolls and props to Garry's Mod for almost 5 years now, not once have we ever considered making NPCs for the things we do. And in that 5 years, we have never, I repeat, NEVER come across as much disrespect in the comments for this one, simple ragdoll port than in all of our addons combined. Not even the comments on our Sonic packs have made us want to punch a manatee as much as the beggars in the comments for this Godzilla model.

We are human beings. We have lives, and we are not getting paid to port these models in the first place. Or at all for that matter, it's not right to make money off of other peoples' modelling work. We were just doing these ports in our spare time because we wanted to share some things that we thought others would like. "Thought". The never-ending comments of people demanding NPCs after we've already said we're not making 'em goes to show that those people in general are spoiled, and are never happy with what they're given.

As you should hopefully know, making an NPC is not as simple as saying "just put the citizen animations on it and call it a day". If a model doesn't fit the Valve biped EXACTLY, we would have to scale it down to fit. And by doing so, it requires more effort than you'd think, especially with a character like Godzilla. It's like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole -- it's just not going to work. And if it can't fit, we would need to make custom animations and coding. And that brings me to what we said earlier -- we're not getting paid to do this.

3D animators would regularly get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do this sort of thing, and it's really time-consuming. Apoc and I barely have any free time to do anything like that nowadays, so for us with no coding knowledge whatsoever and MINIMAL animation skills, it would take that stupid "NPC" a few years at least to be finished. And by the time we would make any worthwhile progress, a better model alternative could be available, like from that one Godzilla PS3 game that's being worked on. And then we would need to throw away EVERYTHING we had done up to that point to work on the new model with its new bone structures and whatnot.

I am so disappointed with the community as a whole right now -- so much that I'm no longer taking requests for any model ports anymore, because the vocal majority of the people in the comments don't care about how much time and effort it takes to make just a ragdoll in the first place, or the impossible/improbable demands that you keep piling on us, expecting us to get done in such a short amount of time.

And if you cared enough to read through this, then I commend you. You've done better than what appears to be 80% of the community.
Last edited by RandomTBush; 5 Jul, 2014 @ 8:49pm
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LegendaryPeelz 5 Jul, 2014 @ 8:21pm 
Originally posted by Old Hog:
u mad

Wow. What a mature and well thought out response!
CrimbleBimble 5 Jul, 2014 @ 9:17pm 
The ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ audacity of some people.

I would like to ask the offending people, that motivatd Apoc and Tbush to write this entry, ONE QUESTION:

What is SO ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DIFFICULT about simply finding someone else to animate the ragdolls into an NPC?

Did it ever occur to you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiots that there are people more experienced with NPC porting and animating than Apoc and TBush combined? Why don't you people ever think of that?

Are you people so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thick headed and full of yourselves, consumed in your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ half-assed wallhaxing on TF2 and CS:S to ever come to that brilliant conclusion? If so, then I pity all of you.
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Gamrappa 5 Jul, 2014 @ 9:23pm 
atleast i dont ask for npc
clou_ds 5 Jul, 2014 @ 10:20pm 
I'm not going to get angry. I'm not going to respond to any of these comments, actually. But I will say that I have indeed found respectful, understanding, and intelligent people out there. Don't you ever lose hope, please. Never forget, and try not to look at the dark mass of the opposite affinity with anger. Look at it with disappointment, sadness, wonder, with anything, but just not anger. Take it from me and believe me, for I know. This goes to anyone who laid their eyes upon this comment. And I hope that it means something to you, reader.
finger 6 Jul, 2014 @ 9:23am 
Once described in my previous comment, people, if you want a npc, contact someone whos good with npcs. If they say no, then piss of. Asking Bush and Apoc, is like asking one who is good with a profession (Lets say, someone who is good at golfing), to do something, that has nothing to do with their profession once-so-ever (Like asking that person whos good at golfing, to win first place in a race, the golfer does not know the techniques to win a race) So don't expect these two users who make RAGDOLLS to do something out of their profession, which is to make a NPC. It does not work, leave these people alone, they are not your guinea pigs.:gmod:
finger 6 Jul, 2014 @ 9:30am 
Originally posted by Old Hog:
u mad
Have some proper grammar, you dingus!
Godzilla seems to be a very big thing in garry's mod. I feel you're pain when it comes to a b***hing community as much as i see other big people get the pissed off ones. These type of efforts in animation same goes to Muto when the ragdolls come out.
Raphael Filt 8 Jul, 2014 @ 7:54am 
Apoc, i have all your model packs, the sonic packs.. etc, and if you want to know why this people is asking for an NPC, because they dont have lives like you, me and other normal people, all those people that asks for NPC's dont have work, just play videogames 24 hours.
Cpt. Hazama 8 Jul, 2014 @ 8:56am 
I find this a little ridiculous actually, these people are more demanding then what I've seen on silverlan's addons. I do feel bad for you guys. But you know, there is always that "Remove this item" button. Though, I suppose they will go to your other addons and complain about the removal...
RandomTBush 8 Jul, 2014 @ 12:44pm 
Originally posted by Cpt. Hazama:
I find this a little ridiculous actually, these people are more demanding then what I've seen on silverlan's addons. I do feel bad for you guys. But you know, there is always that "Remove this item" button. Though, I suppose they will go to your other addons and complain about the removal...
Removing addons would be the last thing we'd do. Why would we do that?
Para 8 Jul, 2014 @ 2:28pm 
Eh didn't bother to read the whole thing, but I wasn't one of the people complaining in the first place anyways. I'm just saying that maybe there's someone else who's willing to make it.
That's what i already have before this discussion existed. lol
MLG PIGLET 18 Jul, 2014 @ 12:57pm 
yay im a part of 20% of the community!
MLG PIGLET 18 Jul, 2014 @ 1:02pm 
i think some people are asking for a npc (not me im not requesting anything) because you are awesome and they are thinking that you can do anything (gmod workshop wise). they might be requesting stuff to remind themselves that you are epic. and there are also those bratty kids who are requesting it cus they are idiots.
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