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The Garand Slam
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Captain Kibbleknight  [developer] 11 Aug, 2022 @ 2:08pm
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Patch 12 Aug, 2022 @ 7:40am 
This item reloads it's entire clip at once.

+30% faster firing speed
+50% accuracy
+2 clip size (Total of 8)

-25% reload speed
-20% damage

Supports a longer range use of the shotgun at the cost of close range damage.
freedom staff 12 Aug, 2022 @ 11:05am 
I feel like with the name having a play on a grand slam, it should have been a scout weapon too
evoliAIM 13 Aug, 2022 @ 7:01am 
Garand Slam

Level 41

Have you ever wondered how it feels like being a soldier during the Second world war?, Fear not this weapon will recreate the Soldiers memories of terror after being spotted due to the loudness of the clip ejection!

Stats:

+20% tighter spread

-15% damage penalty

+15% firing speed

+34% clip size

Reloads entire clip at once!
(2s reload)

Cannot reload unless full clip is emptied

Clip ejection produces a loud ping that everyone can hear
Last edited by evoliAIM; 14 Aug, 2022 @ 4:16pm
Carl weezer 13 Aug, 2022 @ 7:43am 
The Garand Slam
Pump action..rifle?

_______________________
[Fires a single high damage round that bursts into a shotgun blast dealing reduced damage!]
[25%+ Accuracy
[Increased damage falloff]

You want to know how it Works maggot? I teleported Freedom and hateing commies together and BLAMMO you got America. (Freedom and hateing commies being the names soldier gave his guns.
Ragtime Caboose 1 Sep, 2022 @ 9:06pm 
I like the idea of a tighter spread, but maybe go the short-stop route and also reduce the number of pellets to balance that out. But I think a fun gimmick is in store for this (last two stats):

+25% accuracy
+33% clip size (6 to 8)
+25% fire rate
-40% pellet count (10 to 6)

+fast reload if reloading from an empty clip (all bullets are reloaded at once, make it 1/3 the time it would normally take to load all 8 bullets)
-fast reload deals 5 to 10 self damage (includes unique kill icon of a thumb getting slammed by a bolt if the reload kills the soldier)

This could be interesting as there's considerations to be made whether you want to do a fast reload and take the small hit, AND potentially be caught in a longer single reload animation (rather than individual round reloads), or reload early so you don't take said damage, but it takes a little longer to reload.
Last edited by Ragtime Caboose; 1 Sep, 2022 @ 9:10pm
Typical Jack 2 Sep, 2022 @ 1:24am 
+15% damage
+25% accuracy
Headshots do 10% damage gradually, capping at 100%

Headshots do 20% less damage
Have to shoot all bullets to reload
-1 clip size (6 to 5)
No random crits
prince andrew 3 Sep, 2022 @ 2:40am 
+15% damage bonus
+20% faster firing speed
-10% less pellets
-10% to jam while reloading (20 self damage)
-only reloads when clip reaches 0

constructive criticism is allowed
JWEB 3 Sep, 2022 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by Carl weezer:
The Garand Slam
Pump action..rifle?

_______________________
[Fires a single high damage round that bursts into a shotgun blast dealing reduced damage!]
[25%+ Accuracy
[Increased damage falloff]

You want to know how it Works maggot? I teleported Freedom and hateing commies together and BLAMMO you got America. (Freedom and hateing commies being the names soldier gave his guns.

I love this idea so much and think it is fantastic, but might just be needless digital clutter. Maybe the slugs explode in a sphere of pellets to do area of effect damage? Anyways, here is my obligatory unrelated comment on stats for Hau's Armory weapons.

Stat Suggestion:

Pros:
- Fires slugs with pinpoint accuracy. (Slugs do the same amount of damage as shotguns, but with 10% greater falloff to compensate for the perfect accuracy.)
- 85% faster fire rate (faster cocking).
- 66% greater clip capacity.

Cons:
- 90% ammo reserve reduction. (4 reserve shells)

This weapon is a useful tool for both Engineer and Soldier for different reasons. As a soldier, the high damage hitscan of this pump-action rifle could allow you to secure kills on fast moving or retreating enemies who may pose a challenge to hit with rockets. Additionally, using this as a self-defense weapon against harassing scouts when playing roamer or trolldier could save you some serious trouble when you are stranded in the backline.

As Engineer, the fast fire rate and consistent damage could act as a new version of the old Panic Attack and allow for an easy means of dispatching spies. Furthermore, you could be an utter nightmare to your enemies if you were to use this with the gunslinger and set up a little sniper's nest for yourself.
Strengths


- Press and hold the R key to switch to shotgun mode and rifle mode.
- When using rifle ammunition, the bullet penetrates the target. Penetrated bullets cause range damage like shotgun bullets to enemies behind the target.
-Right click to aim.


Weakness
- You can't take a headshot with this weapon.
- Shotgun bullets generated when penetrated by rifle ammunition are reduced by distance.
-Engineer cannot lift the structure while aiming with this weapon.
Canadian James 22 Dec, 2022 @ 7:59am 
Originally posted by And Justice For All:
This item reloads it's entire clip at once.

+30% faster firing speed
+50% accuracy
+2 clip size (Total of 8)

-25% reload speed
-20% damage

Supports a longer range use of the shotgun at the cost of close range damage.

I think instead of the +50% accuracy, it should have a fixed shot pattern like the panic attack. or maybe it should shoot a single slug, idk just some suggestions.
WhiteBoyCowboy 12 Jan, 2023 @ 2:03pm 
The Garand Slam
Level ??? Shotgun

Pros
This weapon deploys 50% faster while rocket jumping
100% critical hit chance while rocket jumping

Cons
-84% clip size
76561199190917765 10 Feb, 2023 @ 7:37am 
Originally posted by evoliAIM:
Garand Slam

Level 41

Have you ever wondered how it feels like being a soldier during the Second world war?, Fear not this weapon will recreate the Soldiers memories of terror after being spotted due to the loudness of the clip ejection!

Stats:

+20% tighter spread

-15% damage penalty

+15% firing speed

+34% clip size

Reloads entire clip at once!
(2s reload)

Cannot reload unless full clip is emptied

Clip ejection produces a loud ping that everyone can hear
I like the unique stats here, recreating the real M1 Garand's quircks. This makes a longer range shotgun that can hopefully be viable.
76561199190917765 10 Feb, 2023 @ 7:38am 
Originally posted by Canadian James:
Originally posted by And Justice For All:
This item reloads it's entire clip at once.

+30% faster firing speed
+50% accuracy
+2 clip size (Total of 8)

-25% reload speed
-20% damage

Supports a longer range use of the shotgun at the cost of close range damage.

I think instead of the +50% accuracy, it should have a fixed shot pattern like the panic attack. or maybe it should shoot a single slug, idk just some suggestions.
A gun that only shoots a single slug? That would be interesting to say the least. But maybe it should actually reward you for being able to aim that 1 slug. Maybe if it only shot a single shot, it shouldn't have the damage penalty.
Reloads entire clip at once
Fires a single projectile
+75% accuracy
+2 clip size

-75% reload speed
-25% firerate
-100% spread
+10% melee damage vulnerability to wearer
Sackboy 27 Apr, 2023 @ 1:36am 
-25% firing speed
chance to cause a stun for 3 seconds (its called the grand slam duh)
+25% damage bonus
-25% clip size
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