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Quality Reworks
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piksel  [developer] 3 Sep, 2022 @ 12:10am
quality changes ideas
if you have some ideas just write them here!
like this : Abyss : 4 to 3
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Kotry 3 Sep, 2022 @ 1:40am 
Duality: 1 to 2
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Hallows' 3 Sep, 2022 @ 4:39am 
imo
maw of the void: 4 to 3
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WitchAmy 3 Sep, 2022 @ 6:47am 
void to quality 2
abyss is better void in every way, so if abyss is 3, then void should be 2
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Sir. Money Man 3 Sep, 2022 @ 9:14am 
rock bottom: 3 to 4
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wynonabuckle 4 Sep, 2022 @ 5:58am 
Satanic Bible: 4 to 3
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WitchAmy 4 Sep, 2022 @ 7:30am 
Originally posted by wynonabuckle:
Satanic Bible: 4 to 3
genuinly why? it's such a powerful item. not only you have a reliable black heart generation but also guaranteed devil deals for early chapters
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wynonabuckle 4 Sep, 2022 @ 8:21am 
yeah, but all it does is give you a black heart and replaces the boss item with a devil item,
and some of the devil items are bad.
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piksel  [developer] 4 Sep, 2022 @ 8:37am 
nah, satanic bible is 100% 4 tier
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wynonabuckle 4 Sep, 2022 @ 8:38am 
agree, it's just my view on the item.
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WitchAmy 4 Sep, 2022 @ 9:55am 
Originally posted by wynonabuckle:
yeah, but all it does is give you a black heart
which is like... a very powerful effect

Originally posted by wynonabuckle:
replaces the boss item with a devil item,
and some of the devil items are bad.
then just dont pick them?

besides, in latter chapters, there's usually enough rooms to get three black hearts before the boss room, meaning the book essentially pays for itself
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wynonabuckle 4 Sep, 2022 @ 10:21am 
agree. I only take items that are powerful such as Brimstone and Maw of the Void. I would never take a bad item.
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Kefke 4 Sep, 2022 @ 2:55pm 
Personal opinion, but none of the bums should be Q0.

Key Bum is probably worth at least a 2, just due to how much loot you can get from chest drops, and how easy it is to circumvent the "not enough keys" problem.

The regular Bum Friend might limit your ability to play things and use the shop, but shops stop after Depths, and he can give consumables for cheap. Plus, you can still beat him to the coins. Add in Super Bum, and that's worth a 1 to me.

You know what doesn't deserve to be Q1? Ventricle Razor. 15¢ item with an even more niche use than Breath of Life. Need I say more?
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Lumen's Loverboy 4 Sep, 2022 @ 5:43pm 
common cold 1 to 2
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WitchAmy 4 Sep, 2022 @ 11:03pm 
Originally posted by Kefke:
You know what doesn't deserve to be Q1? Ventricle Razor. 15¢ item with an even more niche use than Breath of Life. Need I say more?
ventricle is definitely worth q1. back tracking, free curse rooms, free challenge rooms, free boss rush, abusing i-frames

ventricle does what BoL does but better and is easier to use
Last edited by WitchAmy; 4 Sep, 2022 @ 11:03pm
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Sir. Money Man 4 Sep, 2022 @ 11:09pm 
book of virtures :3 to 4 same thing as rock bottom because the synergies man
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