Total War: WARHAMMER III

Total War: WARHAMMER III

Victory Conditions Overhaul [DEPRECATED, USE NEW VERSION, LINK INSIDE]
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Wolfy  [developer] 10 Sep, 2022 @ 12:30am
SUGGESTIONS
Post here your suggestions for routes and rewards.
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Rib Roast 10 Sep, 2022 @ 12:45pm 
Clan Mors-Queek Headtaker

Short victory:
- Capture Karak Eight Peaks
- Ensure the following Lord's factions are destroyed: Belegar Ironhammer, Skarsnik

Rewards:
+ X Diplomatic relations will all skaven
+ X Gold
+ 3 chevrons for all Stormvermin faction-wide
- 100 diplomatic relations with Dwarfs
- 40 diplomatic relations with Greenskins

Long Victory:
- Queek reaches level 30
- Capture the following settlements or own them through military alliance or Vassalization: Karak 8 Peaks, Karaz a Karak, Karak Azul, Black Crag, Karak Azgal, Crookback Mountain
- X amount of battles won against Greenskins
- X amount of battles won against Dwarfs

Rewards:
+ 20 armor for all Clanrats and Stormvermin
+ Immune to Psychology for Stormvermin, Warlords and Cheiftans
+ 15%/20% upkeep reduction for armies that are lead by Warlords
+ Warlords and Chieftains receive warpshard armor ability
+ X recruit rank for Warlords and Chieftains
+ X Gold
- 100 diplomatic relations with Dwarfs
Rib Roast 10 Sep, 2022 @ 12:51pm 
Victory condition for all Skaven:

Clan Ascendance Victory
-Capture all following settlements build their respective landmarks:
Skavenblight, Hell-Pit, Karak Eight Peaks, Crookback Mountain

Rewards:
+ 150 diplomacy with all Skaven factions
+ 10% upkeep reduction on all Skaven units
+ 20% recruitment cost reduction for all Skaven units
+ 3/5 Skaven corruption in adjacent enemy provinces
+ 5 Lord Recruit Rank factionwide
+ 5 Hero Recruit Rank factionwide
+ 20% research rate
+ contact all Skaven factions remaining in the game
+ (bonus depending on the factions units, for example, Clan Mors would receive buffs to chieftains, warlords, and stormvermin in some way, pestilence would recieve bonus to catapults, plague monks and plague priests, etc)
Rib Roast 10 Sep, 2022 @ 7:33pm 
Clan Pestilence-Lord Skrolk

Death of Sotek Victory:
- Ensure the following LL's faction is destroyed:
Tehenhauin, Gor-Rok
- Capture the following settlements and construct it's related landmarks:
Itza
- Lord Skrolk level 30
- field 30 units of plague monks, plagueclaw catapults, or plague priests

Rewards:
+ 30 relations with all Skaven factions
+ 5 hero recruit rank for plague priests
+ 3 rank for plague monks and plagueclaw catapults units
+ X gold
+ every turn there is a small chance (maybe 5% for every region) a plague spawns in an occupied settlement
+ 5% upkeep reduction on plague monks, plagueclaw catapults, and plague priests
- 60 relations with Lizardmen

Lustria Has Fallen Victory
- Ensure the following LL's faction is destroyed:
Gor-Rok, Tehenhauin, Mazadamundi
- Capture the following settlements or own them through military alliance or vassal:
(all major settlements in Lustria)
- field 60 units of plague monks, plague claw catapults, or plague priests

Rewards
+ 30 with all Skaven factions
+ 5 recruit rank for plague priests
+ 5 Lord recruit rank
+ Upon capturing a settlement a plague will spawn in a nearby region
+ 20 missile resistance to all plague monk units
+ X armor piercing damage for plague monk and plagueclaw catapult units
+ 5% upkeep reduction on Plague monks, plagueclaw catapults, and plague priests
+ X gold
- 100 relations with Lizardmen
vanEden 11 Sep, 2022 @ 5:58am 
If you already have routes complete and just need good rewards for them it's maybe easier for people to come up with good suggestions if they know what the rewards is for.
Wolfy  [developer] 11 Sep, 2022 @ 6:16am 
We do not have that much done yet, just small sets of ideas without form.
Drakenhof 11 Sep, 2022 @ 8:07am 
Please, make one of Imrik's custom conditions controlling Grand Cathay through alliances or conquest xD
Thrakerzod 11 Sep, 2022 @ 10:02am 
Mannfred victory conditions
1, collect all books of Nagash (perhaps include beating Arkhan's faction in this since the 9th is bound to his faction)
rewards: factionwide vampiric corruption, factionwide vampiric corruption in adjacent provinces, factionwide raise dead cost reduction (or even just make it free), factionwide magic reserve max increase, factionwide magic reserves per turn

2, directly gain castle Drakenhoff (you need to own it, not allies or vassals) and build its landmark
rewards: +100 relations with Vampire Count factions, Mannfred gets lore of Beasts (with the Von Carstein Vargulf summon)

3, gain control of the entire Empire through direct ownership, vassals, or allies
rewards: access to the empire roster, +100 relations with human factions
Thrakerzod 11 Sep, 2022 @ 10:02am 
Arkhan victory conditions
1, collect all books of Nagash
rewards: factionwide vampiric corruption, factionwide vampiric corruption in adjacent provinces, factionwide replenishment increase, factionwide magic reserve max increase, factionwide magic reserves per turn. Arkhan gets Invocation of Nehek and Wind of Death

2, capture Black Pyramid and build its landmark
rewards: factionwide vampiric corruption, factionwide vampiric corruption in adjacent provinces, factionwide replenishment increase, factionwide magic reserve max increase, factionwide magic reserves per turn. Arkhan gets Gaze of Nagash and Curse of Years

3, capture Nagashizzar and build its landmark
rewards: factionwide vampiric corruption, factionwide vampiric corruption in adjacent provinces, factionwide replenishment increase, factionwide magic reserve max increase, factionwide magic reserves per turn. Arkhan gets Raise dead and Danse Macabre
eurobeat 17 Sep, 2022 @ 11:46am 
While Grimgor's conditions will probably involve the chaos dwarves when they get added, I believe in the End Times his "prologue" to that was krumping both the Ogres and Cathay? Perhaps rewards related to those, with the Ogre route (perhaps eliminating Greasus and controlling the mountains of morn provinces?) giving him access to something like a limited Ogre roster.
Canton Of Prohibition  [developer] 19 Sep, 2022 @ 4:03am 
Crone Hellebron has a fairly easy story to turn into routes. She essentially plays south of her starting position and the routes would flow quite easily.

Route 1: Sacrifice and slaughter

Text: Nagarythe has lived too long, and Khaine hungers for the blood of the revenant. The Shadow King is close, and his time is near.
Objective: Destroy faction: Nagarythe.

Text: Our dedication must not falter, our worship must not cease. Our shrine calls to us, and new sacrifices must be made.
Objective: Control Settlement: Shrine of Khaine

That route is fairly clear - Nagarythe are right below your start position and they're hunting Malekith and all Dark Elves. Slaughter them as Hellebron and her cult would. Then, the Shrine of Khaine lies below the ruins of Nagarythe, right at the peak of Ulthuan. Capture it, and it'll be Hellebron's base of operations for route 2.

Route 2: Suffer not another queen to live

Text: There shall be one queen, and it shall be I, Blood Queen of Khaine. Slay the Everqueen.
Objective: Destroy faction: Avelorn

Text: Tyrion, The heir of aenarion, Consort of alarielle, still lives. High Elf slaves whisper to him in their mindlessness, they believe he'll one day wear the Phoenix Crown. Rip their dreams asunder.
Objective: Destroy faction: Eataine

This route is likely from the base of the Shrine of Khaine. Alarielle and Tyrion are essentially a pair and would make the greatest of sacrifices to Khaine. It'll be a tough route - Ulthuan is almost always defensive/militarily allied, and these two factions rarely if ever are taken out by the AI, so there won't be any shortcuts.

Route 3: An eternity of blood

Text: With the High Elves dealt with, there is only one foe left to slay. Morathi has spurned you too many times. She has long denied you access to the Cauldrons of Blood, and the eternal youth within them, but no more.
Objective: Destroy faction: Cult of Pleasure
Objective: Control settlement: Ancient City of Quintex
Objective: Landmark: Sanctum of Quintex

This route is Hellebron's ultimate goal - eternal youth from the cauldrons. It's also well positioned to follow on from route 2 - it's directly west of Ulthuan, and the High Elves are Morathi's main threat while you're dealing with routes 1/2, so you essentially replace that threat.

As for rewards... No idea - I'd leave that to the developers. I'd think the rewards would continue to align to sisters of slaughter, witch elves, anti-infantry, anti-elf. Maybe diplomatic bonuses with Malekith as partial reward for route 1, since the Shadow King hunts him.
Thrakerzod 21 Sep, 2022 @ 7:25am 
Azhag
1: return of the Great Necromancer
objectives
get Crown of Sorcery
reach Nagashizzar

rewards
undead (all units in lord's army)
bound spell: Invocation of Nehek
max magic reserves+50
magic reserves per turn +15

2: WAAAGH AZHAG
control Troll Country
eliminate the Ice Court
raze Kislev
eliminate the Grand Orthodoxy
eliminate Reikland
raze Altdorf

rewards
reputation+10 per turn
scrap+10 per turn

3: better hats
eliminate Wintertooth
eliminate Warhost of the Apocalypse
eliminate Khemri
eliminate Blessed Dread

rewards
ability: the Wintertooth Crown
passive ability: Crown of Domination
passive ability: Crown of Nehekhara
passive ability: Helm of the Kraken
Enyad 2 Oct, 2022 @ 2:13pm 
Balthasar Gelt could use some unique objectives. I would have the rewards focus on improving wizards, gunpowder units, and artillery. Would love to see CA give him a unique campaign eventually...

I was thinking for the campaign objectives you could have him taking out the biggest threats to the Empire, so Festus, Vladdy, Drycha, and Durthu.

Short victory - TASTE GOLD MAGIC
- Capture or raze Northern Sylvania and Southern Sylvania provinces, the Brass Keep
- Ensure the following Lord's factions are destroyed: Vlad von Carstein, Festus the Leechlord


Long Victory - I AM SUPREME
- Gelt reaches level 30
- Capture the following settlements or own them through military alliance or Confederation/Vassalization: Averheim, Nuln, Castle Drakenhof, Castle Templehof
- Reach Level 10 with at least three Wizards from different schools of magic
- X amount of battles won against Wood Elves
- X amount of battles won against Vampire Counts
Metro Ranger 4 Oct, 2022 @ 9:22pm 
Originally posted by Daynebutter:
Balthasar Gelt could use some unique objectives. I would have the rewards focus on improving wizards, gunpowder units, and artillery. Would love to see CA give him a unique campaign eventually...

I was thinking for the campaign objectives you could have him taking out the biggest threats to the Empire, so Festus, Vladdy, Drycha, and Durthu.

Short victory - TASTE GOLD MAGIC
- Capture or raze Northern Sylvania and Southern Sylvania provinces, the Brass Keep
- Ensure the following Lord's factions are destroyed: Vlad von Carstein, Festus the Leechlord


Long Victory - I AM SUPREME
- Gelt reaches level 30
- Capture the following settlements or own them through military alliance or Confederation/Vassalization: Averheim, Nuln, Castle Drakenhof, Castle Templehof
- Reach Level 10 with at least three Wizards from different schools of magic
- X amount of battles won against Wood Elves
- X amount of battles won against Vampire Counts

Have you ever thought "I wish I could recreate the Vietnam War in Total War: Warhammer except it's Balthasar Gelt in Spain and the VC are rats and it's a dumbass meme?"

no? what's wrong with you.

well now you can!


Route III - Welcome to Estalia, Gentlemen
- "Our long-term objectives are… to see installed a self-governing state which will be friendly to us…": military alliance or Vassalization: Estalia
- "11-for-1": Defeat the following faction: Clan Skryre
- "Artillery Doctrine" Maintain 5 units of 'Helstorm Rocket Battery' in Gelt's Army at level 9.
- "Some of you may die" Suffer a total of 58,220 battle casualties (factionwide)

Reward: "The smell of Gunpowder in the Morning" Flaming Attacks (all Ranged, Gelt's Army)
Reward: "Apocalypse Now" Unlocks Unit: Gyrocopter, Gyrobomber, Flame Cannon, Irondrakes
Reward: "Row of Dominoes" +50 Diplomacy (Dwarves, Estalia, Empire, High Elves), -50 Diplomacy (Wood Elves, Vampire Coast, Vampire Counts)

In particular, I love how most of the Route Sets are organized to provide a flowing 'campaign' if played one after the other. In this case, my "Welcome to Estalia, Gentlemen" Route could become your short and long victory, providing a direction to go outside the empire after uniting 'saving' it from it's internal threats in "taste gold magic", and with a focus against one of Gelt's Natural enemies, Ikit, who you probably want to fight anyway. So head over, pacify the east, root out the rats, and then with your new dawi auxiliaries and flaming attacks from this Route reward, you're ready to go all Ride of the Valkyries on the wood elves to level Gelt and farm elves to complete the I AM SUPREME long Victory.
Last edited by Metro Ranger; 4 Oct, 2022 @ 10:01pm
Cheese is King 22 Oct, 2022 @ 1:40pm 
CA made teclis' victory conditions about getting all the elven colonies together, quite like that idea for 1 route, maybe with a increase in port income as a reward?
Metro Ranger 30 Oct, 2022 @ 9:51pm 
For Kislev - Kostaltyn I feel Route I and II are too similar to each-other, because you can work towards both in parallel. I got both at around the same time because destroying those factions was what my armies were doing while my empire generated supporters. I would combine them into one that focuses on uniting Kislev and winning the race, while destroying border threats. Maybe give them Defender of the North as the reward for that, and then...

Getting revenge for the kidnapping and attempted Murder would be pretty high on old Kosty's to-do list, so how about a Route II focussed on hunting down Be'lakor and Daniel's faction?

After Uniting and defeating the Norscans and nearby threats in R1, the Shadow Legion and Demons of Chaos are both relatively nearby and a natural next step, both geographically and thematically. Going from fighting Chaos minions in Route 1 to fighting chaos itself in Route 2.

Then have a reward boosting growth and Winds of magic in Kislev to represent Ursun returning to the land and revitalising and boosting it, 'Ursun's Embrace'. Maybe a Unique Ice Bear ROR called 'The Avatar of Ursun,' with a bound spell or some AoE buffs for Kislev. Or maybe just AoE damage and Slow to represent the land itself fighting against Ursun's enemies.

With Ursun returned and safe in Kislev and his biggest threats slain, it's time to go show those other empires what a real god looks like in R3.
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