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Spyrot La Iguana 15 Jun, 2023 @ 10:54am
Constructive opinion about different aspects of the mod
Hello! Just here to say this mod is really fun and cool, but it does have some major problems:

1) The way it affects the eating sytstem is plain dumb. A character will be overhydratated after drinking a beer and a soda. A character will feel stomach pain after eating two piece of watermelon. Sometimes you can't even statiate yourself without stomach pain. So that should be reworked so you only have pain after eating a lot (Specially junkfood for example), not after eating literally two items (Maybe you could just add an option to turn it off). This mechanic is a really cool concept. It's just not well implemented.

2) I think maybe the character should be able to just hold it while sleeping. Its an absolute pain having to wake up at 5 am to ♥♥♥♥ or pee. It's doesn't help immersion neither because you haven't done any system around it. The character just wakes up and can't go back to sleep after ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

3) It doesn't make sense that the wanting to take a ♥♥♥♥ moodlet and the being hungry moodlet are shown in green, as positive moodlets are shown green while negatives ones are usually red (And the having to pee moodlet is clearly negative, so it's shown in red). Also the art doesn't really fit the style of the game completely.
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star  [developer] 15 Jun, 2023 @ 4:30pm 
1) The pain is based on amount of eaten food. Also you can't eat more than 1.5 kg (maximum pain). This is default settings, and it may be changed in mod sandbox settings.

2) The "system" is that you can sleep immediately after pee. Such a system works only in singleplayer. And in multiplayer there is another system that lets you hold it until wake up.

3) True, the logic is weird, but there is logic for sure. For example, 200 mL is enough to pee (without any negative effects until ~500 mL), and the green moodle (if enabled in options) helps you to see that.
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ChemicalD 23 Jul, 2023 @ 12:59pm 
I was wondering if I'd be able to adjust the wording that accompanies the moodlets.

"The contents of the bladder need to leave" sounds like it could be phrased differently.

Liking the mod though!
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ChemicalD 23 Jul, 2023 @ 2:26pm 
So not how I saw my evening going but I've retyped up all of the moodlet names and descriptions to increase readability.

Also edited the bad smell moodlet sprite as I didn't like to look of it, don't want to step on anyone's toes but if you want I can send you the updated text?

I would have shifted the moodlets to the correct colours as well but I'm not sure how to do that.
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BroDimm 28 Jul, 2023 @ 11:05am 
already 50%+ feces but the char dont want to ♥♥♥♥ yet. Add laxative or rework the feces ♥♥♥♥-threshold?
it became a routine that our party just sit and wait until want to defecate before starting a trip
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[GWJ]Baron_Of_Hell 28 Jul, 2023 @ 2:42pm 
Got to agree with BroDimm. To me it doesn't make a lot of sense that you can't poop at anytime above 0%. A laxative pill or a just a negative mood hit if done below 50% would be better but really I think you should be able to do it whenever you want. Or maybe just not give any happiness if done below a certain amount.

I kind of feel that the system is managing me instead of me managing the system in the current state. I'm still in the testing things out phase but even with that problem the mod is great and fun to use.
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Spyrot La Iguana 28 Jul, 2023 @ 4:02pm 
Originally posted by GWJBaron_Of_Hell:
Got to agree with BroDimm. To me it doesn't make a lot of sense that you can't poop at anytime above 0%. A laxative pill or a just a negative mood hit if done below 50% would be better but really I think you should be able to do it whenever you want. Or maybe just not give any happiness if done below a certain amount.

I kind of feel that the system is managing me instead of me managing the system in the current state. I'm still in the testing things out phase but even with that problem the mod is great and fun to use.


Originally posted by BroDimm:
already 50%+ feces but the char dont want to ♥♥♥♥ yet. Add laxative or rework the feces ♥♥♥♥-threshold?
it became a routine that our party just sit and wait until want to defecate before starting a trip

I honestly just eat at normal times like breakfast - lunch - dinner so I keep just having to ♥♥♥♥ when I wake up for example or before going to sleep. Having to ♥♥♥♥ at non-convenient time adds to the immersion too.
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Sonov Belial 23 Oct, 2023 @ 7:41am 
Played extensively the mod and is really nice and I've enjoyed it a lot but some key features are really missing IMHO.
They are, in order of importance:
- A recipe to builld a plunger
- A recipe to builld a mop
- A recipe to build a rudimentary toilet

Why? Because at times you are in locations/situations where you can't find any for ages ( Suggessions #1 and #2 above )
About suggestion #3 because, for example, if you decide to live in the open ( a wood/forest for example ) having the chance of building a rudimentary working toilet should be great and immersive IMHO ( Something like a medieval toilet made with wood just to give the idea )

An idea:
- By using the " dig / fill a grave " animations should be great, if you have a showel available in your inventory, having the chance to dig a small hole where to pee and poo. The animation " Dig a grave " creates the small hole ( Possible only on ground terrain, not on concrete/asphalt ones ), then you pee/poo as per normal and then the " fill grave " animation to fill the hole done. The hole left open gives the same effect as walking on a piece of feces left on the ground ( or rather your boots/shoes goes dirty and you'll need to extract the feces and then was them )
Last edited by Sonov Belial; 23 Oct, 2023 @ 7:51am
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