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RimWorld

Way Better Romance
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divineDerivative  [developer] 9 Aug, 2023 @ 6:15pm
Compatibility Requests
If you have questions about compatibility please check the first two posts in this thread first to see if I've already checked that mod. If not, let me know what kind of compatibility might be needed. You must provide a link to the mod in question; directly to the source code would be appreciated.

For race mods, please encourage the author to write their own compatibility patches. Instructions can be found here[github.com]. If something beyond those patches is needed, let me know and I'll look into it. Also let me know when you encounter a race mod that has the patches already!
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divineDerivative  [developer] 9 Aug, 2023 @ 6:24pm 
Romance/General Mods

Incompatible
Any other version of Rational Romance
Psychology
Non-Binary Gender (this one is temporary until I figure out how to handle additional genders)
Prisoner Recreation and Slave Recreation - Their functionality is now part of Way Better Romance, which will override whatever these mods do. I don't want people thinking the recreation mods are broken, so I've marked them as incompatible.
Ladies Can Flirt Too!
[AP] Lovin' Reworked
Less Stupid Romance Attempt (Continued) - I'm already making very similar changes.
Creep Joiners Have Feelings - Unneeded as I was already making similar changes before creep joiners were even a thing.
Sexuality Traits and Sexuality Traits (Continued)
Hermaphrodite Gene Continued

Compatible, no interaction
Gender Supremacy Expanded
Identity: Dysphoria
[SYR] Individuality - but only if you disable romance in that mod's settings
1-2-3 Personalities M1
Vanilla Social Interactions Expanded
Common Sense
SF Grim Reality

Compatibility patches included
Romance on the Rim
1-2-3 Personalities M2
VSIE - Rational Trait Development
Children, School, and Learning - not thoroughly tested
No Hopeless Romance
Tweaks Galore
Vanilla Races Expanded - Highmate
RJW/SJW
Edges of Acceptance
Rimder: Romance Control
Rimder: Romance Control
Simple Trans
AlternateFertility [ALPHA]
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divineDerivative  [developer] 9 Aug, 2023 @ 6:24pm 
Race Mods

Compatibility patches included
Humanoid Alien Races
Android Tiers Reforged
Mechanical Humanlikes
[AP] Skeletons, Skeletons, Skeletons!
Asimov framework
Paniel the Automata
Pawnmorpher
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call_me_b4rti 13 Aug, 2023 @ 2:43pm 
Hello, can we hope for compatibility with Vanilla Races Expanded - Android? Love both mods, would be nice to get a patch in near future
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divineDerivative  [developer] 14 Aug, 2023 @ 10:02am 
Originally posted by call_me_b4rti:
Hello, can we hope for compatibility with Vanilla Races Expanded - Android? Love both mods, would be nice to get a patch in near future

Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do on my side. I'll paste the comments from when the first person asked.

Originally posted by Sr.dino:
Hello! Would it be possible to create greater compatibility with android expanded? I noticed two main things:

.Normal androids with the function to create relationships make them just straight. Is there a way I can change this, or make them always bi?

.Androids at a child age cannot do "dates". This is already fixed in the main mod regarding romance, could you fix it the same way for the hookup?

Originally posted by divineDerivative:
Any pawn with the "psychology disabled" gene is prevented from gaining any traits, which means my code will treat them the same as ace/aro. The VRE team would need to make an exception for orientation traits.

As for dates and hookups, since it's a xenotype and not a race, and their ability to participate is based on the presence of a gene rather than being inherent to certain pawn kinds, there's no where to apply age settings. I would suggest asking them to apply whatever fix they used for normal romance to the activities from Way Better Romance.

So in short, the VE team will need to provide compatibility on their side.
King Jonam 15 Aug, 2023 @ 3:28am 
Hello! I'm so sorry to bother you, but do you happen to know if your mod would be compatible with either of these mods? Sorry if I happened to miss this info somewhere

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1561769193

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1543063349


I see that you also added a patch for Vanilla Races Expanded - Highmate. Does that mean there's issues with the other Vanilla Expanded Races and I shouldn't have thm with this mod?
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divineDerivative  [developer] 15 Aug, 2023 @ 7:27am 
Originally posted by Dangerously Liberal:
Hello! I'm so sorry to bother you, but do you happen to know if your mod would be compatible with either of these mods? Sorry if I happened to miss this info somewhere

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1561769193

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1543063349


I see that you also added a patch for Vanilla Races Expanded - Highmate. Does that mean there's issues with the other Vanilla Expanded Races and I shouldn't have thm with this mod?

Common Sense doesn't touch anything that would interfere with Way Better Romance and Grim Reality makes almost the exact same changes to romance related thoughts as I do. If the differences matter to you, the last one loaded wins.

I have support for VRE Highmates because it introduced romance related mechanics. You can see the exact changes I made in the change notes. The only other VRE mod that would interact with Way Better Romance is Androids; you can see the details of that in the comments above yours.

If I know that a mod is incompatible I will list it as such.
King Jonam 15 Aug, 2023 @ 10:11am 
Oh wow you got back to me so quickly, thank you so much! And I got cha, that all makes a lot of sense. Sorry if this stuff seems like it should be common knowledge, it's been tough for me trying to figure out if/how mods would interfere with each other. But yeah, I really appreciate your help, thank you again! :^)
BIG SOUP 21 Aug, 2023 @ 1:33pm 
Oh I see you've included a patch for Romance on the Rim. That's sick, thank you.

Wondering though, how do these mods interact now? Did you remove "overlapping" features? I assume RotR is more on a fancier and visual side of things, and WBR is more about actual mechanics.
divineDerivative  [developer] 21 Aug, 2023 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by BIG SOUP:
Oh I see you've included a patch for Romance on the Rim. That's sick, thank you.

Wondering though, how do these mods interact now? Did you remove "overlapping" features? I assume RotR is more on a fancier and visual side of things, and WBR is more about actual mechanics.
As far as I know there are no overlapping features. The integration is that hookups and dates fulfill the romance need, and adding the cheating precepts to my cheating calculations.
BIG SOUP 2 Sep, 2023 @ 1:15am 
Originally posted by divineDerivative:
Originally posted by BIG SOUP:
Oh I see you've included a patch for Romance on the Rim. That's sick, thank you.

Wondering though, how do these mods interact now? Did you remove "overlapping" features? I assume RotR is more on a fancier and visual side of things, and WBR is more about actual mechanics.
As far as I know there are no overlapping features. The integration is that hookups and dates fulfill the romance need, and adding the cheating precepts to my cheating calculations.

Yep they seem to work really well together :) tyvm!

However, not sure if this comes from having them both enabled (I like both new interactions and the sexuality system from yours), but I'm getting duplicate negative -1 moodlets "Turned down by X", with differing descriptions. I have quite a few mods including vanilla social interactions expanded, SF grim reality, so it might not actually be from the two romance enhancing mods. Again, not sure.
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divineDerivative  [developer] 2 Sep, 2023 @ 8:49am 
Originally posted by BIG SOUP:
Yep they seem to work really well together :) tyvm!

However, not sure if this comes from having them both enabled (I like both new interactions and the sexuality system from yours), but I'm getting duplicate negative -1 moodlets "Turned down by X", with differing descriptions. I have quite a few mods including vanilla social interactions expanded, SF grim reality, so it might not actually be from the two romance enhancing mods. Again, not sure.

I think that's just me, "What, am I not pretty enough for a tumble??" is for hookups and "What, can't even give me a chance??" is for dates. I could probably make that more clear.
Vastin 16 Oct, 2023 @ 1:26pm 
Can this mod be swapped in place of Rational Romance in an existing colony that is currently using it, or is that just a terrible idea? :D
Last edited by Vastin; 16 Oct, 2023 @ 1:27pm
divineDerivative  [developer] 17 Oct, 2023 @ 1:32pm 
Originally posted by Vastin:
Can this mod be swapped in place of Rational Romance in an existing colony that is currently using it, or is that just a terrible idea? :D
It should be fine, I've kept def names the same, though there are a few things I deleted. Those will cause harmless one time errors. But all of the C# code is in a different "namespace", so it won't copy over, which includes your settings. Just make sure no one is currently doing a job that comes from Rational Romance (asking for a date/hookup, casual lovin', etc.) and it will be fine.

Oh, I also changed how asexuality works, so your asexual colonists will become aromantic as well. You can use Character Editor to change them to a different variety of asexual if needed.
Dougie 18 Oct, 2023 @ 4:30am 
Any word on the non-binary compatibility? I really want to switch over to this mod but my friend and I have a bunch of non-binary colonists. No worries if not though obviously :)
divineDerivative  [developer] 19 Oct, 2023 @ 5:09pm 
Originally posted by Dougie:
Any word on the non-binary compatibility? I really want to switch over to this mod but my friend and I have a bunch of non-binary colonists. No worries if not though obviously :)
I have some ideas percolating, but I'm already working a major change that I want to finish first. There's also still some logistics to figure out. So, the verdict is, "definitely happening, but still not sure when."

In the meantime, I would love to get some feedback on how you'd like the mods to interact, especially how orientation should be handled. My insight into the non-binary experience is basically zero. Head to my discord or start a thread here with your thoughts!
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