Don't Starve

Don't Starve

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Audra 28 Aug, 2017 @ 11:12pm
Shipwrecked I can buy for you
I respect the work you do especially to make people happy when you don't have to. If you'd like, I can buy the game for you as soon as my disability (SSI) money comes in next month, since it's not that expensive, so I can definitely buy it for you.

Your reaction to my comment makes me feel that people aren't appreciative of your mod and hard work, and that you kinda get tired of people getting on your case. If that is so, then I am sorry to have added to that, it's not a good feeling.

My comment was not a flame. A flame comment, from my understanding, is someone going off on how this mod sucks (which it doesn't) and insult you. I'm pretty sure I niether insulted you nor called yu names. I never would do that. An immature comment is basically the same, although I will grant you that my comment was snarky, or snide, if you prefer. It was never my intention to make you feel that way, and for that I apologize.

I know very little of modding, but it was my understanding that all you had to do was add that shipwrecked_compatible = true part, since that's what I've done in the past and those mods worked fine. But since you are the creator and obviously know way more than me, there must be something I am missing. I'm just not knowledgable enough.

So, yeah. If you still want the game, not only to mod, but to play SW since it's so much fun, I can do that for you. Once again I apologize for making you feel bad.
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🐭  [developer] 1 Sep, 2017 @ 2:34pm 
Originally posted by Audra Verela:
My comment was not a flame. A flame comment, from my understanding, is someone going off on how this mod sucks (which it doesn't) and insult you. I'm pretty sure I niether insulted you nor called yu names. I never would do that. An immature comment is basically the same, although I will grant you that my comment was snarky, or snide, if you prefer. It was never my intention to make you feel that way, and for that I apologize.

We can go back and forth all day on what comments are immature, flaming or simply snide, but truthfully your comment went along the lines of, 'what, you're too busy to type just a few lines when people keeping asking for it? I guess you just like seeing people unhappy. but whatevs, it's your mod.' I'm paraphrasing, but what you typed wasn't far off. If I could undelete it I would, just so you could take a second look at it.

Never the less, you are correct. I still receive a fair amount of trolling considering they're just mods for an aging game that was designed for a niche crowd. Usually I just delete the comments and move on, but occasionally I'll throw ♥♥♥♥ right back at them. I know there are people who more or less appreciate my work and, with the most optimistic point of view, I can assume those people are a silent majority. But really, of the most vocal, there are far more people trying to out-troll each other or make the most sarcastic edgy comment evaaar for internet fame, than there are people sharing their genuine point of view or giving actual feedback. And you might be thinking that's normal because this is the internet, but no, it's not. The DS community was never like that until they released Don't Starve Together.

In fact, I'm going to step it up and go from semi-rant into full on rant mode now. Everything changed when they decided to make a multiplayer version. For the longest time, DS was single player only and proud of it. Klei was very outspoken about keeping it single player and even had an emoticon on their official forums with Wilson holding up a sign that said "No multiplayer!" So every time somebody came in saying, "I'm not buying this until there is multiplayer! If you want my money, you'll have to add multiplayer, so please make multiplayer!" everybody could post that emoticon, or one of a dozen links where the developers said they would never make it multiplayer.

Then a few years later, Klei finally caved in and did it. Suddenly all of the obnoxious loudmouths who refuse to touch single player games were given a whole new community to be an obnoxious loudmouth in. And this is the worst part of the gaming community. They treat modders like the modders sold them something, and therefore are obligated to accommodate them. Anytime some aspect of some mod didn't meet their expectations, they whined about it. They went around to every single DS mod and whined for a DST port. Even if it's something that could never ever work in DST, or was a concept that had already been implemented for DST, they still whined for it. They whined, called modders names, and generally just made virtual diarrhea with their keyboards for anybody who didn't even want the multiplayer version, much less pay $15 for it. It was a real ♥♥♥♥ show and still regret buying DST.

And honestly the last thing the DS community needed was another ♥♥♥♥ show, since the developers were no stranger to treating modders like ♥♥♥♥ either. I once came across a public discussion about some aspect of the internal workings of DS and one developer was saying to the other, "If we make this change, it will break a lot of mods." And the other developer replied with (and this is a direct quote), "Who cares?" I don't even remember what they were talking about changing because I was so blown away by such a blatant lack of ♥♥♥♥♥ being given for the people who work so hard to make their game so much better for no pay and an extremely tiny amount of fame. Being a modder was already difficult enough when you get ♥♥♥♥ on by the public, get ♥♥♥♥ on by updates, get ♥♥♥♥ on by restrictive and needlessly confusing code, and get ♥♥♥♥ on by bugs in the game. Getting ♥♥♥♥ on by the developers themselves, especially when you not only improve their game but also fix their bugs, is just going too far.

So if you're considering becoming a modder, this is my message to you: Consider making your own games first. It's way more work and way more time consuming, but modding somebody else's code is too restrictive, you get ♥♥♥♥ on from all directions, you end up making life long enemies, and you'll be extremely lucky if you ever see a single penny from it. The occasional "Thank you" is great and nothing can replace that, but that "Thank you" is pretty much the ceiling for your success. Especially since the gaming community nearly raged themselves into a coma when Bethesda almost allowed modders to charge money for their mods. Talk about an unappreciative and entitled community. :deadrat:

Anyways, this was way longer of a response than I wanted to make, but you seem to be more perceptive than the average person and generally want to understand, so I figured you could appreciate this other point of view. It's a glimpse of whole other world of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ developers have to deal with that the general public and gaming community never sees.
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Audra 15 Sep, 2017 @ 10:13am 
I am so sorry this is late, my dad had surgery for his rotator cuff and I've been having to drive him all over the state for different doctor appointments and stuff (we live in a small state). Anyways, thank you for explaining this to me. I know my comment was rude and thoughtless, and I'm sorry you see it as a flaming comment when I don't, IDK, our definition don't match or whatever, I've already apologized for making you feel bad since that wasn't my intention.I was looking for information because I was trying to ask about why it was so difficult or what kind of issues you were having with making it compatible but I went about it wrong of course, so thank you for elaborating for me.

It seems like this game, namely its developers and consumers, have really let you down. I'm sorry I had any part to play in reinforcing that idea. I do understand how you feel and it's not a good feeling at all.

If you still want me to buy you SW for you, please let me know, but only if you're going to play it. I mean I want you to enjoy it and not buy it for you just so you can make a mod or update it or whatever you call it, I'm not sure.
Gweltaz 24 Sep, 2017 @ 6:16am 
"Is your mod SW compatible ?
- Don't know, don't care, don't have time to check.
- Even if I buy SW for you ?"

Keep your good work for what it is, mouse : a good work. Thanks anyway if *anyhow* you come across some information about it working in SW or not, and nevermind if that second case happens.
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