Well. Most people who is using custom weapons ( example. Modern warfare weapons ) cannot enjoy the map because it will conflict with their guns

Originally posted by Lynx Eichel:

Well. Most people who is using custom weapons ( example. Modern warfare weapons ) cannot enjoy the map because it will conflict with their guns

Actually it doesn't conflict (least in my testing it doesn't) i have a custom auto shotgun reload and custom m16 reload and it prioritiezes using those reloads over the L4D1 reloads

Is it still using original model or custom model ? When i tried it. Its conflicting with all my weapons. ( Im not using original model. Im using custom model instead likes AK12. Cheytac . etc ) . Not the Reanimation

Originally posted by Lynx Eichel:

Is it still using original model or custom model ? When i tried it. Its conflicting with all my weapons. ( Im not using original model. Im using custom model instead likes AK12. Cheytac . etc ) . Not the Reanimation

it uses the original model. weird that it's working for me though and this mod isn't working for you

working but conflicting I guess? it might be working but that's only mod load priority

Originally posted by Testie Tendie:

working but conflicting I guess? it might be working but that's only mod load priority

when i go into the game, there is actually no conflics. no files are "Red" to indicate a conflict oddly

Sorry but I will not add any modded props, textures, or scripts (except the one that loads decals in Short Air) in any of the Short maps (I really wanted to add the reflecting waters in Short Fever by default but I couldn't because of conflicts/optimization issues) Anyway, I'm sure you'll find plenty of L4D1 guns animations that will suit you..

Originally posted by ZOMBUSTERbL0u3d°ç°b:

Sorry but I will not add any modded props, textures, or scripts (except the one that loads decals in Short Air) in any of the Short maps (I really wanted to add the reflecting waters in Short Fever by default but I couldn't because of conflicts/optimization issues) Anyway, I'm sure you'll find plenty of L4D1 guns animations that will suit you..:boomer:

oh no no no. i was not asking you to add in models and such.

i was just curious as to why the mod i was using was not working. the mod says "when playing on a left 4 dead 1 map, the guns will use their left 4 dead 1 animations instead of the normal left 4 dead 2 animations. and when playing on a left 4 dead 2 map they will use the normal left 4 dead 2 animations"

but when i play on your maps, the Short Air, Short Harvest. Short Toll, (which im assuming you used left 4 dead 1 stuff in your maps) the mod i use must think "huh, these are not left 4 dead 1 maps, let's use the normal left 4 dead 2 weapon animations instead"

it seems the mod i use can identify that the "official" left 4 dead 1 maps use something that "triggers" the mod to start using the left 4 dead 1 animations

but your left 4 dead 1 maps seem to lack that thing that would "trigger" the mod i use to start using the left 4 dead 1 animations

i have NO idea what that trigger would be. ill see if i can ask the creator of that "animation mod"

Originally posted by Phoenix Rose:

Originally posted by ZOMBUSTERbL0u3d°ç°b:

Sorry but I will not add any modded props, textures, or scripts (except the one that loads decals in Short Air) in any of the Short maps (I really wanted to add the reflecting waters in Short Fever by default but I couldn't because of conflicts/optimization issues) Anyway, I'm sure you'll find plenty of L4D1 guns animations that will suit you..:boomer:

oh no no no. i was not asking you to add in models and such.

i was just curious as to why the mod i was using was not working. the mod says "when playing on a left 4 dead 1 map, the guns will use their left 4 dead 1 animations instead of the normal left 4 dead 2 animations. and when playing on a left 4 dead 2 map they will use the normal left 4 dead 2 animations"

but when i play on your maps, the Short Air, Short Harvest. Short Toll, (which im assuming you used left 4 dead 1 stuff in your maps) the mod i use must think "huh, these are not left 4 dead 1 maps, let's use the normal left 4 dead 2 weapon animations instead"

it seems the mod i use can identify that the "official" left 4 dead 1 maps use something that "triggers" the mod to start using the left 4 dead 1 animations

but your left 4 dead 1 maps seem to lack that thing that would "trigger" the mod i use to start using the left 4 dead 1 animations

i have NO idea what that trigger would be. ill see if i can ask the creator of that "animation mod"

Your assumption is mostly correct. It works on L4D1 maps only, this is not a L4D1 map, this is a custom map that uses assets from the L4D1 "Dead Air" campaign but to the engine it is still a custom map. Many mods that are designed to work on L4D1/2 campaigns rely on vanilla game files/names/paths to confine the functionality to those maps, it would be better to contact the author of those mods to understand how are they defining what a L4D1 campaign is but as I said, the most reliable method to sandbox functionality to certain campaigns is to write that behavior in code (either blocking it off or enabling it only if X/Y condition is met). It would be impossible for this to register as a "L4D1" map without overriding the original Dead Air (if the engine even allows that). So your best bet is contacting the animations author and either ask them to add support for these campaigns or help/support+permission to add it yourself.

Oh I understand better now, I have no idea how to do that, I guess you'll have to ask those modders to add support for custom maps like Testie Tendie suggested, it's the best thing to do imo, sorry I couldn't be of any further help about that, I'm only a mapper not modder or coder. Anyway I wish you the best of luck to resolve this problem of yours, in the mean time you could use some mods that "artificially" adds L4D1 guns and animations, I'm sure we can find some on the workshop..

Originally posted by Testie Tendie:

Originally posted by Phoenix Rose:

oh no no no. i was not asking you to add in models and such.

i was just curious as to why the mod i was using was not working. the mod says "when playing on a left 4 dead 1 map, the guns will use their left 4 dead 1 animations instead of the normal left 4 dead 2 animations. and when playing on a left 4 dead 2 map they will use the normal left 4 dead 2 animations"

but when i play on your maps, the Short Air, Short Harvest. Short Toll, (which im assuming you used left 4 dead 1 stuff in your maps) the mod i use must think "huh, these are not left 4 dead 1 maps, let's use the normal left 4 dead 2 weapon animations instead"

it seems the mod i use can identify that the "official" left 4 dead 1 maps use something that "triggers" the mod to start using the left 4 dead 1 animations

but your left 4 dead 1 maps seem to lack that thing that would "trigger" the mod i use to start using the left 4 dead 1 animations

i have NO idea what that trigger would be. ill see if i can ask the creator of that "animation mod"

Your assumption is mostly correct. It works on L4D1 maps only, this is not a L4D1 map, this is a custom map that uses assets from the L4D1 "Dead Air" campaign but to the engine it is still a custom map. Many mods that are designed to work on L4D1/2 campaigns rely on vanilla game files/names/paths to confine the functionality to those maps, it would be better to contact the author of those mods to understand how are they defining what a L4D1 campaign is but as I said, the most reliable method to sandbox functionality to certain campaigns is to write that behavior in code (either blocking it off or enabling it only if X/Y condition is met). It would be impossible for this to register as a "L4D1" map without overriding the original Dead Air (if the engine even allows that). So your best bet is contacting the animations author and either ask them to add support for these campaigns or help/support+permission to add it yourself.

ohh that makes sense. didn't know custom maps were that different.. thanks for the info!

Originally posted by ZOMBUSTERbL0u3d°ç°b:

Oh I understand better now, I have no idea how to do that, I guess you'll have to ask those modders to add support for custom maps like Testie Tendie suggested, it's the best thing to do imo, sorry I couldn't be of any further help about that, I'm only a mapper not modder or coder. Anyway I wish you the best of luck to resolve this problem of yours, in the mean time you could use some mods that "artificially" adds L4D1 guns and animations, I'm sure we can find some on the workshop..

oh it's alright. thanks for understanding anyways!

love your maps by the way! if you want you can delete this discussion page now!

Originally posted by Phoenix Rose:

love your maps by the way! if you want you can delete this discussion page now!

Aww thank you !
But I think I'll keep this discussion up because it's quite informative and adds momentum to the map

Gotta be honest, I was indifferent for the majority of the map. I've come to enjoy and appreciate the others but for this it just felt like stock Dead Air up to the transformer field where some walls were opened up and that's about it. Wasn't too impressed, not sure what you could do to improve it but maybe take more creative liberties in stitching the maps together or get more creative with how they're done.

Originally posted by The Renegadist:

Gotta be honest, I was indifferent for the majority of the map. I've come to enjoy and appreciate the others but for this it just felt like stock Dead Air up to the transformer field where some walls were opened up and that's about it. Wasn't too impressed, not sure what you could do to improve it but maybe take more creative liberties in stitching the maps together or get more creative with how they're done.

To be perfectly honest it's exactly what I did at first, I added a bunch more stuff here and there to make it more "different" but when I realized that the engine couldn't handle it, I had to remove it and make a "barebone" version of dead air, to my great despair... Thank you very much for your constructive feedback though, it's greatly appreciated !