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[REP.] Martha of Bethany (Character Mod)
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Yazawa AkiOS  [developer] 10 Jun, 2023 @ 7:29pm
(READ BEFORE SUBMITTING FEEDBACK) Issue Reports & Dev Notes
Any issue or question regarding the mod goes here, we'll be checking the problems in-game on weekend based on the coder's schedule.

Discord Server Now Available! Average Martha Enjoyers ~ Martha Mod Feedback Chat [discord.gg]

Dev Notes:

For Bugs & Crashes:
  • It'd be helpful if you can refer to debug console reports or logs.txt (My Games/Binding of Isaac Repentance) when submitting your report
  • If you're having troubles tracking down the exact issue through measures above, please send us your logs.txt through our Discord server.

For Balancing:
  • Please be specific in describing the exact issue. Preferably, you can refer to stats and/or formulas in the original game for better clarity
  • The current loot to HOPE count scale of Martha and Tainted Martha's restraint mechanic will not be changed for now
  • We have yet to settle with the qualities, item tags and item pools for most implemented items, any suggestion on those matters will be greatly appreciated

For Other Issues:
  • The issue where opening chests with HOPE blasts cannot trigger challenge room has been considered impossible to fix due to technical restraints
  • The issue regarding discounted shop items for Martha being displayed in red is currently considered impossible to fix
  • The issue with picking up certain loot as Martha not playing the correct collection animation will not be fixed currently--but we'll consider looking into it in the future
  • For any incompatibility issue with certain other mods (especially Fiend Folio), Please submit the report to Mod Incompatibility Reports Thread
  • Visual issues with Martha's costumes are generally known and will be attended to as the mod updates, but we welcome any cool idea you have for special costumes
  • the China Card and multiple cards added into this mod are references to the board game Twilight Struggle [boardgamegeek.com] , it does not reflect the mod developers' political stance

Current Playtest Requirements:
  • Doublecheck the resource state of Martha in most runs (considering it can be pretty floaty, it's gonna require further confirmation for us to settle just WHAT THE HELL, are we gonna do with HOPE)
  • Doublecheck the damage output/increase of most offensive items (primarily Vampiric Cloth, Frying Pan, China Card, Grand Cross, HOPE, Holy Hand Grenade, Ms. Dolly, Tarasque and Family Drawing)
  • Doublecheck the utility of Degeneracy
  • Doublecheck the resource output of Tithe Chest (Currently using a fixed scale of loots)
  • Doublecheck EID descriptions
  • Evaluate the quality of all currently existing items (they're all set to Qual. 2 as of now)
  • Check what items/machines/objects are currently incompatible with Martha's HOPE counts in Fiend Folio

Future of the Mod?
After the mod's release, I intends to put the content updates of the mod aside to pay more focus on my passionate projects, therefore it's unlikely that the mod will see any big new additions soon. However, potential issues will still be looked into if submitted, and will most likely be dealt with on weekend as previously mentioned.
The biggest gap to fill in terms of the mod right now is probably item synergies and Tainted Martha's costumes, those will be of the highest priority when it comes to any future content update if any is to come.

Thank You for Playing!
It's been a long while since I've been in touch with the Isaac community, with all the up & downs and joy & troubles. The idea of this mod had been in the back of my head even before Repentance's release, and I'm glad that I get to make it into reality. Thanks for the help of multiple coders (especially Cuerzor) and the close testers, and I hope you enjoy your time playing the mod!
Last edited by Yazawa AkiOS; 2 Sep, 2023 @ 4:28am
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acikd.24 11 Jun, 2023 @ 6:45am 
Here is list of occurred errors:
1)Martha cannot pay to ferryman from Samael mod
2)Martha cannot unlock glass chest from Fiend folio with her passive
3)Glutonous snout trinket from retribution mod does not spend hope in order to gulp trinkets
4)Martha cannot upgrade familiars with sewing machine from standalone mod.because it requires coins and Martha cannot pay it with hope
5)Blast of Martha deal no damage to Giant props
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Yazawa AkiOS  [developer] 11 Jun, 2023 @ 8:31am 
Originally posted by acikd.24:
Here is list of occurred errors:
1)Martha cannot pay to ferryman from Samael mod
2)Martha cannot unlock glass chest from Fiend folio with her passive
3)Glutonous snout trinket from retribution mod does not spend hope in order to gulp trinkets
4)Martha cannot upgrade familiars with sewing machine from standalone mod.because it requires coins and Martha cannot pay it with hope
5)Blast of Martha deal no damage to Giant props
Mod compatibility issues will not be looked into for now, since the main concern is with the mod itself right now.
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blue 11 Jun, 2023 @ 2:03pm 
Certain parts of the beast gauntlet are unreasonably difficult as Martha-B. The Forgotten's Soul can drag around the Body in that area, so Martha-B should be able to drag around the Morning Star.
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Yazawa AkiOS  [developer] 11 Jun, 2023 @ 5:23pm 
Originally posted by blue:
Certain parts of the beast gauntlet are unreasonably difficult as Martha-B. The Forgotten's Soul can drag around the Body in that area, so Martha-B should be able to drag around the Morning Star.
We'll look into this one
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NegativeNev 11 Jun, 2023 @ 9:19pm 
Tainted Martha's birthright doesn't work; double-tapping won't recall the morningstar
And... she can't pog
Last edited by NegativeNev; 11 Jun, 2023 @ 9:27pm
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Yazawa AkiOS  [developer] 11 Jun, 2023 @ 9:42pm 
Originally posted by Jjitchilla:
Tainted Martha's birthright doesn't work; double-tapping won't recall the morningstar
And... she can't pog
The issue with Birthright should be dealt with now.
As for pog for good items...well we'll look into that the other day lmao
#6
NegativeNev 11 Jun, 2023 @ 9:47pm 
Originally posted by Yazawa AkiOS:
Originally posted by Jjitchilla:
Tainted Martha's birthright doesn't work; double-tapping won't recall the morningstar
And... she can't pog
The issue with Birthright should be dealt with now.
As for pog for good items...well we'll look into that the other day lmao
Woah I certainly didn't expect to hear back from you THIS fast!
Thanks for responding
#7
NegativeNev 11 Jun, 2023 @ 10:41pm 
Error: When Tainted Martha falls into a hole while holding her morningstar(e.g. Little Horn's holes) it results in a softlock.
Last edited by NegativeNev; 11 Jun, 2023 @ 11:01pm
#8
Yazawa AkiOS  [developer] 11 Jun, 2023 @ 10:52pm 
Originally posted by Jjitchilla:
Error: When Tainted Martha falls into a hole (e.g. Little Horn's holes) it results in a softlock.
Noted--not sure if the coder's up right now, suppose we'll check later.
#9
sinbiscuit 12 Jun, 2023 @ 11:52am 
As a small side note, Glass Chests from Fiend Folio are impossible to interact with due to Martha's mechanics and lack of keys, with the light blast not affecting them.

... which is why as a FF dev I think it would be funny if glass chests just shattered from the blast instead. >:)
#10
Badsy the Edgecat 12 Jun, 2023 @ 12:14pm 
martha cannot interact with other mod's money beggars (i.e. from retribution, repentance plus, and fiend folio, ferryman from Samael, etc)
Last edited by Badsy the Edgecat; 12 Jun, 2023 @ 12:15pm
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Evgast 12 Jun, 2023 @ 3:02pm 
Originally posted by Badsy the Edgecat:
martha cannot interact with other mod's money beggars (i.e. from retribution, repentance plus, and fiend folio, ferryman from Samael, etc)
"We currently have no plan on implementing compatibility with other mods unless necessary/contacted by dev"
#12
NegativeNev 12 Jun, 2023 @ 8:41pm 
Originally posted by sinbiscuit:
As a small side note, Glass Chests from Fiend Folio are impossible to interact with due to Martha's mechanics and lack of keys, with the light blast not affecting them.

... which is why as a FF dev I think it would be funny if glass chests just shattered from the blast instead. >:)
😈
Last edited by NegativeNev; 12 Jun, 2023 @ 8:42pm
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WSYJ 12 Jun, 2023 @ 9:34pm 
sixsixsix:CoolLady:
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MrBalloons 13 Jun, 2023 @ 2:02pm 
The mod works flawlessly and it's very cool, but i have onw smal little request, there's a very cool mod in the workshop called Sewing Machines wich adds those Machines to are used to Upgrade Familiars in cool ways by spending Money (in the shops at least, wich is the more common case), but Martha cannot use those machines as paying with Hope doesn't actually work, could you make that to work, preeetyy pleease?? :3
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