Rain World

Rain World

Shadow of Lizards
Conquest and Death 2023 年 8 月 9 日 下午 8:10
Questions on the Mod
I'm just generally curious for how this works since it's very impressive. Questions I have:

How do each of the transformations work or occur? Cause I've seen a red centipede fry a pink and then it seemingly came back as a melted of all things.

Are there any plans for more transformations?

Are there plans for more gore/dismemberment features relating to lizards like tail severing, tongue skewering/severing, healing dismemberment, and the such?

Are there plans for said gore/dismemberment features for other creatures?

How does the "cheating death" system work exactly? Is it just the chance that the lizard comes back after dying the next cycle or is it the chance they transform and return next cycle based on their death?
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notsmartcat  [開發人員] 2023 年 8 月 9 日 下午 9:50 
The Spider Transformation occurs when a lizard is killed by any type of spider or another spider-Lizard.
If the killed Lizard Cheats Death then on the next cycle the Lizard Will become a Spider Mother. The Spider Mother Lizard hates spiders and will be hostile to all spiders. Spiders will not attack the lizard and move out of it's way. For the Lizard to get the Spider Transformation it needs to either live 3 cycles or it needs to Cheat Death again.
Dying while a Spider Mother the Lizard is forcefully decapitated making it harder to survive. This stage can be skipped if the "Skip Spider Transformation" option is turned on. After the Lizard gains the Lizard Transformation it becomes neutral to all Spiders and other Spider Lizards.

That is basically how all the Transformations work as I do not want to Write them all out. Spider Transformed Lizards are the only ones neutral to each other.
While Lizards can Only have 1 Transformation The step before the transformation can be overridden by dying a different way.

Are you sure it was the same Pink Lizard? It could have been a different one that spawned with the Melted Transformation.

I currently have no plans for anything else as I am trying to fix all the issues but maybe something simple will be added.

The Cheating Death System is Very simple. It's basically a Chance for a lizard to not be replaced once it dies. The Lizard is dead but the it will spawn back in it's den. The chance is rolled whenever The lizard dies, Transformation or not.

If you want to see how it works in the background I would suggest Turning on the "Debug Logs" option and looking at the debug logs accessible by pressing "o" then "k" while the Debug Mod is on. :)
Conquest and Death 2023 年 8 月 10 日 上午 10:30 
引用自 notsmartcat
The Spider Transformation occurs when a lizard is killed by any type of spider or another spider-Lizard.
If the killed Lizard Cheats Death then on the next cycle the Lizard Will become a Spider Mother. The Spider Mother Lizard hates spiders and will be hostile to all spiders. Spiders will not attack the lizard and move out of it's way. For the Lizard to get the Spider Transformation it needs to either live 3 cycles or it needs to Cheat Death again.
Dying while a Spider Mother the Lizard is forcefully decapitated making it harder to survive. This stage can be skipped if the "Skip Spider Transformation" option is turned on. After the Lizard gains the Lizard Transformation it becomes neutral to all Spiders and other Spider Lizards.

That is basically how all the Transformations work as I do not want to Write them all out. Spider Transformed Lizards are the only ones neutral to each other.
While Lizards can Only have 1 Transformation The step before the transformation can be overridden by dying a different way.

Are you sure it was the same Pink Lizard? It could have been a different one that spawned with the Melted Transformation.

I currently have no plans for anything else as I am trying to fix all the issues but maybe something simple will be added.

The Cheating Death System is Very simple. It's basically a Chance for a lizard to not be replaced once it dies. The Lizard is dead but the it will spawn back in it's den. The chance is rolled whenever The lizard dies, Transformation or not.

If you want to see how it works in the background I would suggest Turning on the "Debug Logs" option and looking at the debug logs accessible by pressing "o" then "k" while the Debug Mod is on. :)
Thank you man! I was very curious. One thing though, I would check on the cheating death feature to make sure they respawn with the same personality, since I've noticed a lot of mods that do that sorta thing don't notice that issue with respawning creatures with the same ID. Seems they generate the personality randomly.
Conquest and Death 2023 年 8 月 10 日 上午 10:36 
I do have a few more questions though. Does dismemberment carry even when cheating death? And is there a way for lizards to survive being beheaded? Would be a neat reference to that headless chicken that survived losing it's head for months, although sad.
Also the config mentions lizards can not only lose but gain the jump and tongue abilities. Is there some way for them to regain it?
最後修改者:Conquest and Death; 2023 年 8 月 10 日 上午 10:38
notsmartcat  [開發人員] 2023 年 8 月 11 日 上午 12:09 
I am not sure about the personality things.
Dismemberment does carry through, Beheading kills the lizard and gives it 50% less chance to cheat death. Making Lizards live after losing it's head is not possible by normal means however I had a glitch where I used debug keys to get rid of lizards head while it was in a shortcut and it's head was invisible. It still bit normally tho.
Lizards can gain both the jump and tongue by falling out of the map, only 1 at a time.
Conquest and Death 2023 年 8 月 11 日 上午 8:35 
I see, interesting.
finney2981 2023 年 8 月 27 日 下午 4:01 
does it work with custom lizards?
notsmartcat  [開發人員] 2023 年 8 月 28 日 上午 10:15 
I do think custom lizards themselves will be alright but Lizard Customizer mod has some incompatibilities
Cosmosquid 2023 年 10 月 1 日 下午 6:48 
does removing both eyes perm blind the lizard
notsmartcat  [開發人員] 2023 年 10 月 2 日 上午 7:34 
yes
Cosmosquid 2023 年 10 月 3 日 下午 4:18 
ok but does removing all legs remove its ability to walk
notsmartcat  [開發人員] 2023 年 10 月 3 日 下午 7:23 
They can kinda slowly slither around still but they won't be able to do much with no legs
notsmartcat  [開發人員] 2024 年 6 月 2 日 下午 1:56 
I updated the descriptions with some info on the Transformations. I also made it generally better structured
Can you make it so carnivores can take out their heart when they die?
notsmartcat  [開發人員] 2 月 8 日 下午 4:06 
Technically probably yes however I am not currently planning to add more stuff to the mod. Sorry
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