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VIA Rail LRC Pack
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RadiKyle 28 Feb, 2024 @ 7:39am
Buy menu mixed up?
Oh hey, more great Canadian paints, cool!! ;) Thanks for making these! And wow these are the cleanest VIA cars I've ever seen lol!

Just letting you know the buy menu seems a bit mixed up between "Business" and "Economy", or it is intended that way? I have 2 buy menus options (for the original business and economy cars of the dependency LRC mod), and each has multiple variants. But I'm seeing business cars in the Economy list and vice versa. For example in year 2000 I have 7 Business variants and only 2 Economy variants.

Because all the cars look so identical I can't tell if it's just a naming thing in the menus, or if the car models are actually mixed up.

Oh hey where do you get those other VIA F40 paints in your screenshots? Seeing some that definitely aren't in Col0Korn's mod pack, with different logos/advertising on his yellow-nose version, plus a different green/yellow "wing stripes" version.

Cheers!
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Micedoe  [developer] 28 Feb, 2024 @ 10:59am 
Hello there, I would need to see a pic of your buy menu because the way they were setup was intentional. Several hours went into researching car types and schemes and when they were introduced. Business cars did not show up until 2011 when the LRC fleet was rebuilt. They were just “coaches” before that, hence the first class cars being in the economy buy menu. Also there are no economy cars set to show in the business menu except for the default/original LRC from ICS. Also every car is named and there is a list in the description of the mod that further details the differences between each car.
Last edited by Micedoe; 28 Feb, 2024 @ 11:04am
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RadiKyle 28 Feb, 2024 @ 12:36pm 
Hi, thanks for quick reply! Sure no prob, here's 3 screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/gX3F3yI
Note this is in year 2000, because that's the latest year I can set in a mod-free test map. Only this mod + the LRC dependency are loaded (and the built-in "no end year" mod ofc for vehicle testing).
Let me know if this looks as intended. Thanks!
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Micedoe  [developer] 28 Feb, 2024 @ 12:45pm 
Thanks for the screenshots. That is not the intended setup but the MDL's all point to the right places and I loaded a new clean game myself with just the LRC's and they all show up where they're supposed to. So im not sure what kind of settings you have or if there is another mod that is conflicting with the setup. Also noticed in your "business list part 2" pic, the top shows a 1980's economy car but the bottom shows the 1991 car selected...that does not happen for me in the menu.
Last edited by Micedoe; 28 Feb, 2024 @ 12:47pm
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RadiKyle 28 Feb, 2024 @ 12:58pm 
Bizarre. It's just this mod + dependency like I mentioned.

I just jumped ahead to a 2043 save to see the rest of the variants, but it's heavily modded. Business list has 11 variants, all of them "economy" cars (except the dependency). Economy list has 7 variants, all of them "cafe/business" cars (except ditto). So the lists are completely flipped for me here. I'd screenshot them but it'd be like another 7 images to show them all (because of the game's wonderful non-expanding UI).

Not sure what to suggest... I can't make my setup any more vanilla without unloading the mod. Maybe you're loading a different version somehow? (staging area?) I dunno
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RadiKyle 28 Feb, 2024 @ 1:03pm 
...Just in case, just tried it without "no end year" active, and it's still the same story (just without the discontinued cars ofc).
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RadiKyle 28 Feb, 2024 @ 5:18pm 
So I thinkkk the issue is with ICS's dependency mod that yours references... These 2 screenshots of the ICS models in the Model Editor should explain everything: https://imgur.com/a/QgHZHJU

In game, the ICS "Business" car has 2+2 seating inside, and the "Economy" car has 2+1 seating! 😮

In the .mdl files from that mod, the business model's capacity is 76, while the economy model's is only 52!

So it appears that all this time the ICS mod had the models/labels mixed up, and nobody noticed because we didn't look inside them haha...

Do you want to contact them to let them know?
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RadiKyle 29 Feb, 2024 @ 6:30am 
Ok I added a Discussion topic on the ICS mod about it, but have no idea if they will ever see it:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/2767504863/4306075118781251979/
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