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「 Barony Hardcore+ 」
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he/him lesbian timoris truther 1 Mar @ 5:17am
HC+ lite? Barony +?
I feel the need to preface this with first- yes, skill issue, but second, saying that I'm personally a massive fan of all of the reworks and additions, and as someone who wanted more types of challenge out of Barony the mod itself is amazing as it is.

However, the group I play Barony with don't have as much time to invest into the game- out of all of them, I'm the only one with a vanilla hardcore clear- but they still greatly enjoy the reworks and additions, and how they give classes, races, and specializations more of an identity, as well as the new artifacts and floors. Is a version of the mod with less of the punishing difficulty in the cards for the future? Or, is there a way to tweak the settings ourselves?

For now, we've been running the mod without turning hardcore mode on and it works well enough, there's still a challenge (gnomish firestorm, mage-type enemies, shopkeeper ai rework) but there's less random deaths to singular mistakes (getting hit by a troll once). I understand that even if it was planned, it's not at all a priority- my group is just of the opinion that a lot of the changes made here would be amazing basegame features or as a general 'expansion'.

tl;dr, great mod, friends think its great too but are too busy to put in the time required to properly experience it, wondering if a 'lite' or toned down version is planned or possible to configure ourselves
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he/him lesbian timoris truther 5 Mar @ 1:09pm 
Revisited after finishing a solo automaton hunter run with hardcore mode on as recommended. There's definitely some things turning off hardcore mode would make more difficult, funnily enough, like grinding weapon skills to Legend. Will update if I finish a co-op hardcore run, and lastly, a four player run with hardcore mode turned off
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fskin  [developer] 6 Mar @ 5:47am 
Hi, you could edit the gameplaymodifiers.json inside Barony/data/ where you can adjust the global XP award. You could also spawn helpful items like life saving amulets/healing for the party for a homebrew experience. Maybe open the editor and edit the spawn map (start.lmp), place the items so you don't have to input cheats every time.
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solidius 7 Mar @ 7:09am 
To be fair the mod works on the Syndrome quote when it comes to balancing.You fight OP enemies as OP classes ,which makes it balanced.Some things are too OP if you turn off Hardcore mode such as Mechanist's Wrench or Wizard's Scepter having such big DPS that pretty much almost nothing can withstand their power.

As for punishing dificulty, hopefuly one day the mod makes it to 4.3.1 so you can use the assist shrine to get some assist items to help your friends.

Also just because the mod advertises one experience doesnt mean you gotta stick to it.You can modify things to your liking such as giving yourself more items or if you know where to look lowering the damage of certain enemies.Also as fskin said you can modify EXP gain,its there basicaly to avoid the vanilla issue of you becoming overleveled over the enemies and using the levels to cushion the blows

Some classes are more challanging/demanding than other classes to play,such as Accursed and Ninja due to them beeing glass cannons and focused on beeing in the frontline.

For mistakes yea playing Hc+ requires more patience and caution around every situation.Running reckleslly forward is a great way to get killed.For trolls I suggest asking your team's ranger/magician to take them out or use paralysis or other tools which dont involve getting close or ask whoever is best in kiting enemies to take them down.If no such resources are avilable then avoid the troll for the time beeing,you arent forced to take down every enemy you see.

But yea most of the changes Hc+ adds could do very well in the base game if they are tonned down in power.I mostly view the Class changes/things as the mod's way of buttering you up for playing it because if it was just dificulty then nobody would have played it.You need to have suffering to feel hapiness sometimes
Last edited by solidius; 7 Mar @ 7:12am
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