Space Engineers

Space Engineers

Automated Inventory Sorting
Boo 31 Oct, 2014 @ 2:18am
Not pulling ore into p10 cargo while p5 refs are on (which for sure cant handle 1kk iron)
seems like the mod stopped pulling ore into the (Ore) cargos...

Screen

however i can directly paste a screen link here...

so its just not pulling into the ore cargo while there is stuff in a regular cargo which at least worked with items like steel plates before patch 1.054
Last edited by Boo; 31 Oct, 2014 @ 4:35am
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Boo 31 Oct, 2014 @ 4:17am 
hmmm i was away for an hour and that nonen ore cargo is empty now... i dont know if its pulled by refinery or by by the sorting command... if it was because of the command, it took more than some minutes to sort.

i will start another test with refs off.

btw. its dedicated and its the only mod running ;)

i love this mod! keep up the good work :)
Boo 31 Oct, 2014 @ 4:22am 
hm... i dont know for what reason it took ages just before. maybe simulation speed was a little lower because all refs where burning... now it took the usual 2-3 seconds and i am fine again.... another round with refs on...
Boo 31 Oct, 2014 @ 4:30am 
i think i got it... priority of the refs is higher than the priorty of the cargos.... so refs block cargos from pulling from other cargos that are unmodded...

but shouldnt the cargos pull what the refs cant take?

its not that important because we are just talking about ore but it should still be differnet shouldnt it?


so when the p5 refs are offline, the p10 cargos pull from my ship, too. what they didnt do before... turning refs off is the workarround for now :)
Last edited by Boo; 31 Oct, 2014 @ 4:34am
tyrsis  [developer] 31 Oct, 2014 @ 8:25am 
Do you have refineries set to "Off" under the option "Use Conveyor System" for refineries? If not refineries will use their own internal sorting.
Boo 31 Oct, 2014 @ 9:48am 
they are set to "off" , yes. they only pull a specific ammount of ressources, not their whole inventory space but still deny the sorting of my ships or other unmodded cargos into the right cargos
Boo 6 Nov, 2014 @ 8:59am 
tyrsis this problem still exists and since i implemented arcs into my configs, now i have to shut off refs and arcs to let my cargos pull from my ship.

p10 cargo cant pull while a p5 refinery is active, even if the refinery is limited to 1 part of ore, the cargos wont pull 1 million from the ship.

and nother thing is: my cargos cant pull from the arc furnace output inventory (anymore) ... all my arcs are going to stop working because output is full :( do i really have to config cargo prio higher than arcs and assembler even more higher? and the cargos für the "assembled stuff" even more higher?

1st: output inventorys of arcs, assemblers, refs should not be effected by the pull priority i think.
2nd: low priority containers should pull whatever higher priority blocks cant handle (in that moment) because the higher priority containers can still pull from lower priorty containers when they are capable again ;)
Boo 6 Nov, 2014 @ 9:16am 
update: seems like the first thing was solved when i gave all my p10 cargos p5... maybe because i have other p5 cargos which are full... so this would add to the 2nd problem i posted in the post before.... full cargos shouldnt block empty cargos that have a lower prio... but the seem to totally block them from taking anything even when they are full.
tyrsis  [developer] 6 Nov, 2014 @ 9:30pm 
There is just way too much text in here to try to determine what is going on. Full cargos can't "block" anything. You need to setup a scenario that isn't working properly, and type /sort debug. Let the debug run for a bit, and then come here and explain what you're trying to do, your expected outcome, and the real outcome. Then I can try to figure out what is going on. Also I will need you to post a log as explained in the bottom of the description.
Boo 7 Nov, 2014 @ 4:32am 
f*ck! i wanted to paste screenshot links from steam and it closed my explanation post :( once agtain ;)

I got a ship with cargos full of ore, i connect it to the base via connector, the refs and arcs pull ore.

Good until now.

But! the Cargo(Ore) cant get anything because the arcs and refs are on higher priority. (but my ship has a lot more cargo space than the arcs and refs can handle)

Refinery(Ore:50:p7,stone:ignore,iron:ignore,nickel:ignore,cobalt:ignore)
Arc furnace(Ore/Iron:10:p4,Ore/Nickel:10:p4,Ore/Cobalt:10:p4)
BaseCargo: Cargo(Ore)
Ship: Small Cargo Container

When the Cargo is on a lower prio than the arcs and refs, it can't pull the ore which is idling on the ship. i need to shut down ars and refs, than its working perfect. but when i set the cargo to a higher prio, the arcs and refs can no more get ore from the cargo... u know the problem now?

Arcs and refs on http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/43109960998603248/04EB2FBC66BB4B125F43B452A0B081C06AD57493/

shutting them off http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/43109960998605703/5B86E0A1976BB6934EBE19CF0F1C461819519E8C/


shipcargo - connector - base connector - cargo/arc/ref

i want my ship cargo cleared completely... debug didnt give any output... i hope its understandable now

this problem is not only with ships. even the base internal sorting does not work when the refs and arcs are on a higher prio than the cargos... i set a cargo(ore:p9) while the others are still without prio so p10 adn the p9 cargo didnt pull anything.
Last edited by Boo; 7 Nov, 2014 @ 4:55am
Boo 7 Nov, 2014 @ 4:59am 
now they pulled... maybe 5 minutes after i set them on p9 .... strange... its maybe the gameserver cant handle that much sorting?!

just one basic question... is a not modded Small Cargo Container without brackets handled as a p10 or has it no priority setting? when its handled as p10 without havinng brackets, its explaining all my problems... (and i need a bigger gameserver because its taking too long :P)

AND did u check for performance when the mod handles about 100-200 blocks? already contacted my provider... it took min. 10 minutes now to sort some ore into the cargos... but at least it does sort things...
Last edited by Boo; 7 Nov, 2014 @ 5:27am
tyrsis  [developer] 7 Nov, 2014 @ 6:22am 
I need log files, I can't do anything with screenshots sorry.
Boo 7 Nov, 2014 @ 7:43am 
i doublechecked for the logs... there is just the exception thing i mentioned in another thread here yesterday... http://pastebin.com/NJjTu10B

nothing more with debug mode on and i waited the whole 10-20 minutes until he finally pulled the ore into the cargo.

here is my serverlog if this could help (i dont think so but i dont know) http://pastebin.com/wwPMZKbK

i reinstall my server now maybe it helps with performance issues

its faster when i play the save local but its still taking some seconds. on reinstalled dedicated with the gameserver just moved to a new root server its pulled in about 15 seconds now... i am almost happy now. sorry for so much talking about a thing what appears to be server performance stuff... but still 2 questions

1. did u test ur mod using about 100-200 modded blocks? i think its producing hard performance issues (update: even with sorting toggled off, sim speed drops.... its SE bad performance again, sorry :))
2. is a not modded cargo "small cargo container" without brackets automatically handled as if it was modded and has no priority (p10)?
Last edited by Boo; 7 Nov, 2014 @ 10:54am
tyrsis  [developer] 7 Nov, 2014 @ 11:40am 
That is not really possible to not have a log. Your logs must be in a different location then. That might just be the server log. Please note that running this on dedicated, it only runs on the client not the server. I need the logs from the client, not the server logs.
tyrsis  [developer] 7 Nov, 2014 @ 11:45am 
Just to be clear, there are two log locations when you're playing on a dedicated server. One log is on the game server, and the other log is on the client. I need the client log. No sorting occurs on the server (yet), as dedicated server scripts didn't even work until last week, so only the clients could sort.
Boo 7 Nov, 2014 @ 3:02pm 
maybe u should have mentioned before that its client sided :D i can send u 1.300.000 lines of log :D
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