Thanks for the guide Cheese. I have downloaded and set up RFPM and wh3mm. I found the files within the folder location. I do not want to change anything however I just want the mod to work again as it did before and I was wondering if you can guide with what limited knowledge you might have. I can export it and re-upload it if that is all it needs but all the units that were there before seem to still be there. Maybe change with the folder structure? Any help would be great.

Sorry, I'm a bit confused, but do you want to make this mod adaptable to Cataph's Southern Realms (based on your previous comments), or is this mod currently having some issues after a few minor updates? Well, my understanding is that you want the version made by the previous author 泡泡茶壶, which adapted the units of the Southern Realms, is that right? If my understanding is correct I'll do an update in a week's time (I've been busy preparing for the start of the school year lately), because my version is more ‘rules-based’, it will take more work to adjust the units formations, but anyway thanks for the comment !!

Hey Cheese,

My apologies for not explaining it well. I am not a modder but in a small way I want to become one so that I can start to update mods when people such as yourself are busy with school/work ect. I hate to ask but with so many people wanting an update myself included I wanted to at least offer to learn myself. It is a little confusing even with the software and unit values and how to re-upload and many people sort of scoff when you ask them for guidance.

To answer you yes that is correct. The version by the original author from before worked with Cataph's Southern Realms as well at Cataphs Kraka Drak factions and but also with other non southern realms factions such as the Empire. I hate to bother but not a lot of people are offering to help or learn so I wanted to do that so I can stop bugging you lol.

No rush at all. Like I said willing to learn!! Love an update but am willing to help. I am a very busy person too is why its hard for me to take time to learn.

Like would gladly take it over if someone could at least sort of show me the ropes with this as I doubt I would be able to take over more than one mod lol

Hey Euclid,

It's totally fine to ask me questions, this enthusiasm of yours is very impressive. However, as I'm also a rookie, I can't give much help, but I can recommend a few channels that can help you learn about the modding:

1. Total War Modding: https://tw-modding.com/index.php/Main_Page
2. Da Modding Den(Discord): https://discord.com/invite/moddingden

Some of the problems I've encountered in modding the formation mod were solved by asking questions through this Discord channel and the help of former authors, I hope this will also help you

Thanks Cheese and thanks for offering to update it in a week. I joined Da Modding Den and will check the other resource you posted. Good luck in school and I might send another message here when and if I get it to work :-)

Hi! Great mod and great guide! I plan to do some experiment with some mods like LOW Dragon Legion etc. With a little willful to ask but can you provide a dummy page for all the formations on a table like "formations_dummy"? I might be asking to much but i'm mostly new to the modding. Thanks for your hard work.

I probably understand the problem you're having, are you finding that you can't create the formation_xxx.tsv file? Because I had this problem too, here's the ‘dumb’ solution I used: First export the file "formations_brt.tsv", then rename it to "formaions_dummy.tsv"(In RPFM, not the one you exported), and then import "formations_brt.tsv"back in, so that you can rewrite the "formaions_dummy.tsv" . Hope this helps!

I made a submod using your guide. Thank you for the guide.

Originally posted by Cheese Leopard:

I probably understand the problem you're having, are you finding that you can't create the formation_xxx.tsv file? Because I had this problem too, here's the ‘dumb’ solution I used: First export the file "formations_brt.tsv", then rename it to "formaions_dummy.tsv"(In RPFM, not the one you exported), and then import "formations_brt.tsv"back in, so that you can rewrite the "formaions_dummy.tsv" . Hope this helps!

I think i was not that clear about my question. I wanted a page every 12 formations type visible, like a cheatsheet for modding. But after a little bit browsing i was able to create my own cheatsheet for adding new units. Thanks for everything.

Originally posted by Deli Paşa:

I made a submod using your guide. Thank you for the guide.

I am glad that someone more talented than myself is willing to work on this as I have not had the time to really touch it and what time I did have I failed miserably. I am grateful for you guys making this stuff work though. In the future I too would need a cheat sheet to make updates just because of my lack of knowledge in modding. This mod is a must have and if there is anything someone like me can do to help, testing ect I am willing and able :-)

Thanks Cheese and thank you Deli!!!!

Originally posted by Euclid:

Originally posted by Deli Paşa:

I made a submod using your guide. Thank you for the guide.

I am glad that someone more talented than myself is willing to work on this as I have not had the time to really touch it and what time I did have I failed miserably. I am grateful for you guys making this stuff work though. In the future I too would need a cheat sheet to make updates just because of my lack of knowledge in modding. This mod is a must have and if there is anything someone like me can do to help, testing ect I am willing and able :-)

Thanks Cheese and thank you Deli!!!!:mllrrad:

Hi! If you reach me via dirrect message i can provide you a spreadsheet which i prepare for the coding part. I categorize units and use that to chose correct formation for each said unit and carry them to RPFM. If you want i can add you as contributor to mod and we might work on it together?

My profile always on invisible mod. You can reach me out any time you want even i seem as offline. If i'm on pc i will respond anytime.

Originally posted by Deli Paşa:

Originally posted by Euclid:

I am glad that someone more talented than myself is willing to work on this as I have not had the time to really touch it and what time I did have I failed miserably. I am grateful for you guys making this stuff work though. In the future I too would need a cheat sheet to make updates just because of my lack of knowledge in modding. This mod is a must have and if there is anything someone like me can do to help, testing ect I am willing and able :-)

Thanks Cheese and thank you Deli!!!!

Hi! If you reach me via dirrect message i can provide you a spreadsheet which i prepare for the coding part. I categorize units and use that to chose correct formation for each said unit and carry them to RPFM. If you want i can add you as contributor to mod and we might work on it together?

My profile always on invisible mod. You can reach me out any time you want even i seem as offline. If i'm on pc i will respond anytime.

I would be more than happy to try to help with this. I hate having to ask for help but I have no experience yet I am willing to learn. If that is something that does not terrify you then I will send you a PM and am more than happy to work with you on it :-)

No problem at all. I will try to help with little things i know. I'm awaiting your PM. :)

I'm SOOOOOO glad you guys are interested in this mod! Although my modding skills are very limited, I have a few pieces of information that might help you:

1. In my previous tests, long-range units could use formations but couldn't fire, I personally assume it's because of the missing related animations

2. In the latest DLC, CA added a unique shield wall formation for Shorts(Dwarves), which could theoretically be utilised

3. When viewing this mod via RPFM, you can see shield_wall 1 and shield_wall 2, where the former is a normal shield wall and the latter is actually the "testudo_formation", the difference between the two is that the latter is a more compact formation (in my personal opinion) and can be designed to be lifted upwards, see this mod by 泡泡茶壶 for more details: https:// steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3100236987

4. If you want to see all the formation types provided by CA, you can use RPFM to open the db file in the data file in the WH3 home directory and search for ‘special_abilities_specific_formation_types_tables’.

Well, actually, my planning was poor at beginning, i didn't categorise the units types, which made every adjustment and update very ‘annoying’, ideally all units should be categorised, e.g. Sword and Shield, Spearmen, Low Rank Cavalry, High Rank Cavalry etc. It would be very convenient to adjust the data (maybe CA has already made a list of troop types, but I just can't find it?). I really like this MOD, but I found it a bit beyond my capabilities, and my lack of prior experience makes it difficult for me to plan big updates. Anyhow, i am looking forward to your updates and wishing you all the best !