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⎛⎝Helix⎠⎞ 18 Oct, 2024 @ 6:40pm
Am I the only one finding this mod a little bit too overwhelming?
I have tried a couple times playing as Japan, France and the USA but there a too many type of techs, different issues such as economical crisis, Covid, Saudi civil war. It is just too much at once and I get demolished by the AI due to the overwhelming new mechanics, division types and such.

I really want to like this mod but it is just as much of a pain to learn as other mods such as TNO. I understand however that others will enjoy this mod for that reason. I do hope maybe some guides/tips will be released in the near future.

I will still give it another shot tomorrow regardless ^^
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Heinz Boofinschmirtz 18 Oct, 2024 @ 9:16pm 
I have to agree with this statement, too much going on
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⎛⎝Helix⎠⎞ 18 Oct, 2024 @ 10:11pm 
Originally posted by Heinz Boofinschmirtz:
I have to agree with this statement, too much going on
Yep, this is why sometimes simplicity makes the best mod
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9000k4 18 Oct, 2024 @ 10:32pm 
Yea, I.m so overwhelmed with the civil war that its hard to focus on what exactly I should be doing to win. An I'm not sure if I'm supposed to rely so heavily on militia to win but to also somehow rebuild an entire economy before the communists declare war.
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GrampyGrey 18 Oct, 2024 @ 11:12pm 
Yeah, it seems the devs couldn't focus on one thing and just added a bunch of random stuff. I also think the UI gives me a headache.
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Big Nutty 18 Oct, 2024 @ 11:17pm 
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This mod is a convoluted mess of UI, mixed with teenage angst. Simple as.
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Heinz Boofinschmirtz 18 Oct, 2024 @ 11:18pm 
Originally posted by Big Nutty:
This mod is a convoluted mess of UI, mixed with teenage angst. Simple as.
^this
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⎛⎝Helix⎠⎞ 18 Oct, 2024 @ 11:59pm 
Originally posted by 9000k4:
Yea, I.m so overwhelmed with the civil war that its hard to focus on what exactly I should be doing to win. An I'm not sure if I'm supposed to rely so heavily on militia to win but to also somehow rebuild an entire economy before the communists declare war.
talked with a a dev and let me tell you it seems bleak
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⎛⎝Helix⎠⎞ 19 Oct, 2024 @ 12:00am 
Originally posted by GrampyGrey:
Yeah, it seems the devs couldn't focus on one thing and just added a bunch of random stuff. I also think the UI gives me a headache.
and seems like it might stay that way
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⎛⎝Helix⎠⎞ 19 Oct, 2024 @ 12:05am 
Originally posted by Big Nutty:
This mod is a convoluted mess of UI, mixed with teenage angst. Simple as.

And the worst part it has a lot of potential but like with other mods such as TNO and Millennium Dawn they overcomplicate it. That’s why mods that stick with the usual HOI4 UIs such as Kaiserreich, Red Flood, Road to 56, Red Dusk and so on.

Would be such a good mod if they found a balance like Old World Blues did
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Gao 19 Oct, 2024 @ 5:51am 
Skill issue
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arkyn 19 Oct, 2024 @ 6:39am 
Skill issue
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Bonk ♿ 19 Oct, 2024 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by Big Nutty:
This mod is a convoluted mess of UI, mixed with teenage angst. Simple as.
I couldn't have said this better myself
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Heinz Boofinschmirtz 19 Oct, 2024 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by ⎛⎝Helix⎠⎞:
Originally posted by Big Nutty:
This mod is a convoluted mess of UI, mixed with teenage angst. Simple as.

And the worst part it has a lot of potential but like with other mods such as TNO and Millennium Dawn they overcomplicate it. That’s why mods that stick with the usual HOI4 UIs such as Kaiserreich, Red Flood, Road to 56, Red Dusk and so on.

Would be such a good mod if they found a balance like Old World Blues did
Yeah, if they went a balanced form instead of the extreme it would have a bit more nuance and be less edgy.
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⎛⎝Helix⎠⎞ 19 Oct, 2024 @ 12:28pm 
Originally posted by Heinz Boofinschmirtz:
Originally posted by ⎛⎝Helix⎠⎞:

And the worst part it has a lot of potential but like with other mods such as TNO and Millennium Dawn they overcomplicate it. That’s why mods that stick with the usual HOI4 UIs such as Kaiserreich, Red Flood, Road to 56, Red Dusk and so on.

Would be such a good mod if they found a balance like Old World Blues did
Yeah, if they went a balanced form instead of the extreme it would have a bit more nuance and be less edgy.
Yeah, the edgy stuff is kind of what they are going for but the UI and balancing ruins the mod for most
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Heinz Boofinschmirtz 19 Oct, 2024 @ 12:34pm 
Originally posted by ⎛⎝Helix⎠⎞:
Originally posted by Heinz Boofinschmirtz:
Yeah, if they went a balanced form instead of the extreme it would have a bit more nuance and be less edgy.
Yeah, the edgy stuff is kind of what they are going for but the UI and balancing ruins the mod for most
Honestly, they just tried to add too many random features and new unit types and fit into such a small amount of time, have to play at one speed to even know whats going on.
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