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meeeeme 25 JUN a las 13:16
How do you even win the second european war?
I played a game as germany recently and got my balls kicked repeatedly by fascist russia as communist germany after i let them win the first war thinking it would make me stronger as people on the internet like to say.

Yesterday i tried to do duginist russia using the template i will link below (not original i saw it on reddit) and as i set completed the focus and had all my soldiers in the line (i was constantly micromanaging equipment production during peacetime only ended up with 120 divisions as much as i tried) I immediately got f*cked by europe. i didnt move and not a single day had passed and i had red defense bubbles all over my frontline. what am i supposed to do are my templates just bad?

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meeeeme 25 JUN a las 13:20 
I have played a few more runs of this mod before and remember winning once with the nsm and once with PQTRIQT FRQNT so im not completely useless ig
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云行光流 26 JUN a las 8:14 
Communist Germany can ask China for production license of J36(2036 jet), then you can fxxk off all russian jets and bomb russian troopers away easily.
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meeeeme 26 JUN a las 9:37 
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Communist Germany can ask China for production license of J36(2036 jet), then you can fxxk off all russian jets and bomb russian troopers away easily.
I'm playing against the ussr as france rn in the second war got any tips?
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ofree 29 JUN a las 15:25 
I haven't played the mod yet but presumably if you lost as both sides it means you are not very good at the game. If it were merely unbalanced you would be able to win as one of them unless there are player only debuffs.
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meeeeme 29 JUN a las 16:25 
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I haven't played the mod yet but presumably if you lost as both sides it means you are not very good at the game. If it were merely unbalanced you would be able to win as one of them unless there are player only debuffs.
When i lost as germany i was playing the communists against the fascists when i lost as russia i was playing as the duginists. In the mod there is a complicated thing where the winners and losers of the first war changes the ideologies of the losing side and supposedly makes them stronger to get revenge. its not just two sides of the same war in the time i played germany i intentionaly lost the first war to the fascists to become communists and with russia i made russia communist and intentionaly failed to invade ukraine
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Pira 1 JUL a las 17:18 
Publicado originalmente por meeeeme:
Publicado originalmente por ofree:
I haven't played the mod yet but presumably if you lost as both sides it means you are not very good at the game. If it were merely unbalanced you would be able to win as one of them unless there are player only debuffs.
When i lost as germany i was playing the communists against the fascists when i lost as russia i was playing as the duginists. In the mod there is a complicated thing where the winners and losers of the first war changes the ideologies of the losing side and supposedly makes them stronger to get revenge. its not just two sides of the same war in the time i played germany i intentionaly lost the first war to the fascists to become communists and with russia i made russia communist and intentionaly failed to invade ukraine
literally just spam IFV's and tanks/planes. Probably a mixture of IFV and APC's but I don't exactly remember the stats but pure IFV's with tanks won me the 2nd european war as Russians.
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meeeeme 2 JUL a las 2:45 
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Publicado originalmente por meeeeme:
When i lost as germany i was playing the communists against the fascists when i lost as russia i was playing as the duginists. In the mod there is a complicated thing where the winners and losers of the first war changes the ideologies of the losing side and supposedly makes them stronger to get revenge. its not just two sides of the same war in the time i played germany i intentionaly lost the first war to the fascists to become communists and with russia i made russia communist and intentionaly failed to invade ukraine
literally just spam IFV's and tanks/planes. Probably a mixture of IFV and APC's but I don't exactly remember the stats but pure IFV's with tanks won me the 2nd european war as Russians.
How many battalions of ifvs though? in each division?
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Pira 2 JUL a las 11:52 
I do 36w. AA,AT,Field Hospital, Signal Comp, and artillery. You would prob be fine with replacing AT with engineers once you get the combat engi tech.
For air I just go for all Air to air missiles for my main fighter
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meeeeme 2 JUL a las 12:46 
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I do 36w. AA,AT,Field Hospital, Signal Comp, and artillery. You would prob be fine with replacing AT with engineers once you get the combat engi tech.
For air I just go for all Air to air missiles for my main fighter
aaik the ones you mentioned are support not main battalions. Also i dont have by blood alone.
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meeeeme 2 JUL a las 12:46 
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I do 36w. AA,AT,Field Hospital, Signal Comp, and artillery. You would prob be fine with replacing AT with engineers once you get the combat engi tech.
For air I just go for all Air to air missiles for my main fighter
based pfp btw
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Pira 2 JUL a las 14:09 
Publicado originalmente por meeeeme:
Publicado originalmente por Pira:
I do 36w. AA,AT,Field Hospital, Signal Comp, and artillery. You would prob be fine with replacing AT with engineers once you get the combat engi tech.
For air I just go for all Air to air missiles for my main fighter
based pfp btw
ty bro, the 36w was meant for pure IFV lol
Última edición por Pira; 2 JUL a las 14:09
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Pira 2 JUL a las 16:47 
if you want an actual good division https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVHNT-vcwo0 15:53
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meeeeme 3 JUL a las 2:48 
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if you want an actual good division https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVHNT-vcwo0 15:53
The dude is playing with japan though. Is this applicable to europe as well?
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Pira 5 JUL a las 12:15 
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Publicado originalmente por Pira:
if you want an actual good division https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVHNT-vcwo0 15:53
The dude is playing with japan though. Is this applicable to europe as well?
yes... it's IFV's with SPA lol
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meeeeme 6 JUL a las 4:00 
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Publicado originalmente por meeeeme:
The dude is playing with japan though. Is this applicable to europe as well?
yes... it's IFV's with SPA lol
thanks i will check it out.
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