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Xercaine  [developer] 21 Nov, 2024 @ 2:14pm
Infinite Recreation Loop (Incompatibility)
Discussion thread for reporting on the recreation loop likely caused by Rocketman or Need Bar Overflow.

Update: I've looked into it, but I unfortunately have not been able to fix it.
Last edited by Xercaine; 28 Nov, 2024 @ 9:04am
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licoriceandmint 21 Nov, 2024 @ 5:03pm 
have reasonable suspicion that rocketman is causing the issue, played for an hour without it and looping did not occur, will test further !

update: after further testing there may be another conflict or bug with similar symptoms, normal forms of recreations work as normal but reading books has a similar looping behavior as before
Last edited by licoriceandmint; 21 Nov, 2024 @ 5:39pm
Xercaine  [developer] 21 Nov, 2024 @ 5:08pm 
@licoriceandmint Thanks, appreciate the info! Narrows it down for my own testing.
Gekonius 21 Nov, 2024 @ 10:59pm 
I have the same issue. I only use Rocketman. My guess is that, due to Rocketman's tick delays, pawns queue up all available recreation activities. Because of the nature of most of these activities, they only briefly engage with them before moving on to the next. For example, if I have a chess table and a horseshoe pin, my pawns "dance" between them. The only activity that works for me without this strange "dancing" behavior is "Going for a walk."
My other guess is that having too few recreation options causes issues. For example, if you only have a chess table and a horseshoe pin, the pawns quickly fill up their Dexterity and Cerebral recreation needs, making those activities "boring." As a result, they are forced to switch activities immediately.
Last edited by Gekonius; 21 Nov, 2024 @ 11:05pm
Xercaine  [developer] 22 Nov, 2024 @ 4:57am 
@Gekonius Hey, thanks for reporting this! Very helpful to have as a baseline. I've looked into it, and figured out that it's not related to pawns being bored, but rather something about the adaptive mode messing with the duration of recreation. Clearing cache in RocketMan > Load time optimization > Clear cache seems to temporarily fix it.
albany_ 23 Nov, 2024 @ 1:46pm 
Seeing this issue without Rocketman or Need Bar Overflow. It's probably another mod tapping into the same function (or whatever, I'm not a coder), but it seems like it's not limited to those two mods.
Xercaine  [developer] 23 Nov, 2024 @ 2:02pm 
@albany_ Thanks for the report. Funnily enough the term function is spot on. Could you send a copy of your modlist from Hugslib using pastebin, if you know how?
albany_ 23 Nov, 2024 @ 4:29pm 
Hey Xercaine—hope this helps. https://pastebin.com/kYBqJmXc

It doesn't resolve itself by returning to main menu, but reloading the game seems to fix it (for a little while, anyways).
ShadowH4nD 23 Nov, 2024 @ 4:38pm 
i have this same issue but i don't actually have rocketman on my list. weird!

here's my logs
https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/d1f18e6ab85b83c5461aed9df3927d67
Last edited by ShadowH4nD; 23 Nov, 2024 @ 5:10pm
Xercaine  [developer] 23 Nov, 2024 @ 5:16pm 
@albany_ Thank you! Unfortunately, I can't see anything that stands out to me. If you can, try disabling half your mod list at a time to try and narrow down the issue.

@ShadowH4nD Thanks, good to know! It's can happen with some mods that modify recreation, but if you can take a look at albany_'s above pastebin and see if you share some mods, that might help. You could also do the advice I mentioned here to albany_ to try and narrow it down.
Xercaine  [developer] 24 Nov, 2024 @ 6:39am 
@albany_ @ShadowH4nD These are the mods you have in common https://pastebin.com/QaHbzUNp. If one of you could disable any vanilla expanded mods that are in there and tell me if that stops the problem, I could narrow it down.
Katalist 25 Nov, 2024 @ 6:00am 
i have rocketman, however ive noticed my colonists still just "wandering" i definitely have enough recreation availability, as ive got tons of chairs and books, havent come across the infinite loop yet
Aphantastic 25 Nov, 2024 @ 4:57pm 
Been enjoying using this, i have been running into the loop problem, i do use Red's performance: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3343465955

i noticed that a save and load does not fix it, however reordering my mod list would fix it for a good while, then it will happen once again. at the time of writing im loading rec when idle after red performance and will see if that helps it. again after reordering the modlist the loop will stop. it may be just the restarting of the game the fixes it, no clue.

Edit: Took a while to happen again, but its good ol adage of turning it off and on again :)
Last edited by Aphantastic; 25 Nov, 2024 @ 6:15pm
WJSabey 29 Nov, 2024 @ 9:43pm 
I hope you can solve this because I'd love to have my colonists relaxing instead of just milling about idly. Have you reached out to the Rocketman devs? They claim compatibility with all other mods except Multiplayer and RimThreaded.
Xercaine  [developer] 30 Nov, 2024 @ 3:38am 
@WJSabey Yeah, I've tried the Discord but it's not very active. I'll keep trying to look for a solution, but it'll be more of a background process given the challenge.
nicebagdad 3 Dec, 2024 @ 12:33pm 
I use both Rocketman and do recreation while idle and had this only happen once whereafter reloading a save fixed it, it never happened again in a 40 hour game. I am unsure why. Was thinking maybe Do Lovin' for Idle could also be a potential problem?

if I am able to recreate it ill let you know.
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