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Rim-Hivers! - Biotech
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Vex  [developer] 5 Dec, 2024 @ 9:41am
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Tracking bugs:

- Hivers cannot be operated on. (Mod conflict?)
Last edited by Vex; 17 Dec, 2024 @ 9:30am
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Luneyl 6 Dec, 2024 @ 4:07am 
"Agile" gene reduces dodge chance instead of increasing it.
Screaming Worm 8 Dec, 2024 @ 8:02pm 
Noticing how hiver larva will grow into both of the two types of hivers, even if laid by a civil type. Seems pretty random as far as I can tell. I think it has something to do with the royal-morphology gene, but I'm not entirely sure.

I'm not anywhere close to being a professional coder, but maybe making a change to the royal-morphology gene could be a quick fix? Like a savage and civil type for each of the two queens programmed to lay certain type of egg? I dunno, feel free to literally ignore what I just suggested.
Vex  [developer] 9 Dec, 2024 @ 8:51am 
Originally posted by The Master:
Noticing how hiver larva will grow into both of the two types of hivers, even if laid by a civil type. Seems pretty random as far as I can tell. I think it has something to do with the royal-morphology gene, but I'm not entirely sure.

I'm not anywhere close to being a professional coder, but maybe making a change to the royal-morphology gene could be a quick fix? Like a savage and civil type for each of the two queens programmed to lay certain type of egg? I dunno, feel free to literally ignore what I just suggested.
It can be done easily, but I'd have to make a new egg laying hediff and larva item for the savage hivers. I was lazy and didn't really wanna do it.
Benjermann 10 Dec, 2024 @ 8:58pm 
uhhh.... they don't have heads... not sure why.
Sophia 11 Dec, 2024 @ 5:27pm 
I'm having the same issue of Hiver's not having heads I think it has something to do with the mod "[NL] Facial Animation - WIP" or maybe the mod "Vanilla Textures Expanded - [NL] Facial Animation" as I can see the faces of the hivers (a shadow of the NL face) but the head is missing and the NL face editor doesn't work on pawns with this xenotype either, however I am not a programmer or anything like that so I'm not sure if this is the case. I'm going to disable both mods and see if the heads come back
Last edited by Sophia; 11 Dec, 2024 @ 5:28pm
Bujak 12 Dec, 2024 @ 9:53pm 
many hivers spawn in normal tribal factions for some reason, also all of them aren't using weapons. im using yayo.

there isnt any problem with the normal hiver factions though.
Bujak 14 Dec, 2024 @ 11:21pm 
unfortunately i cant seem to find any error logs.

Currently im playing with just hivers, sheks, and scorchlanders. Ill try to start a new game and see if there is anything different.
Techmaid Rae 16 Dec, 2024 @ 10:59am 
For some reason, Hivers have no operations tab on them in my game. I am playing heavily modded, so i'm not expecting it's on your end, but Hivers are the only race it's affecting, so i'm wondering if you might know how i'd go about finding out why i can't do this? I can't replace any missing body parts, so it's hard to do anything involving captured Hivers ;-;

Edit: Also part of the reason i'm posting this here, if i can find what the incompatibility is it may be worth noting on your page
Last edited by Techmaid Rae; 16 Dec, 2024 @ 11:00am
Vex  [developer] 17 Dec, 2024 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by Techmaid Rae:
For some reason, Hivers have no operations tab on them in my game. I am playing heavily modded, so i'm not expecting it's on your end, but Hivers are the only race it's affecting, so i'm wondering if you might know how i'd go about finding out why i can't do this? I can't replace any missing body parts, so it's hard to do anything involving captured Hivers ;-;

Edit: Also part of the reason i'm posting this here, if i can find what the incompatibility is it may be worth noting on your page
Thank you for the report! It does sound like a mod conflict, could you link your hugslib log? It will show your modlist, and can help weed out the issue in the future if anyone else has this problem.
Vex  [developer] 17 Dec, 2024 @ 9:32am 
Originally posted by Sophia:
I'm having the same issue of Hiver's not having heads I think it has something to do with the mod "[NL] Facial Animation - WIP" or maybe the mod "Vanilla Textures Expanded - [NL] Facial Animation" as I can see the faces of the hivers (a shadow of the NL face) but the head is missing and the NL face editor doesn't work on pawns with this xenotype either, however I am not a programmer or anything like that so I'm not sure if this is the case. I'm going to disable both mods and see if the heads come back
You can blacklist hivers xenotypes in Facial's mod settings.
Vex  [developer] 17 Dec, 2024 @ 9:33am 
Originally posted by Bujak:
unfortunately i cant seem to find any error logs.

Currently im playing with just hivers, sheks, and scorchlanders. Ill try to start a new game and see if there is anything different.
I've noticed they're a bit common despite numerically being low chance, I'll look into it.
Techmaid Rae 17 Dec, 2024 @ 10:59am 
Originally posted by Vex:
Originally posted by Techmaid Rae:
For some reason, Hivers have no operations tab on them in my game. I am playing heavily modded, so i'm not expecting it's on your end, but Hivers are the only race it's affecting, so i'm wondering if you might know how i'd go about finding out why i can't do this? I can't replace any missing body parts, so it's hard to do anything involving captured Hivers ;-;

Edit: Also part of the reason i'm posting this here, if i can find what the incompatibility is it may be worth noting on your page
Thank you for the report! It does sound like a mod conflict, could you link your hugslib log? It will show your modlist, and can help weed out the issue in the future if anyone else has this problem.
Looking at it myself, with my very little experience, i think it may be a conflict with Way Better Romance? Not sure though, all the info should be at the bottom area i think. Anyways, i'm sure you know how to read this better than i do, so here it is xD
https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/b45c348f126f96c3496c154c042bf7c9
Vul'gak 27 Dec, 2024 @ 3:28am 
Having a interesting problem where Soldiers are equipping helmets they arent supposed to be able to use, like war masks, cant force them to equip it, but they can equip these itens by themselfs
Originally posted by Techmaid Rae:
Originally posted by Vex:
Thank you for the report! It does sound like a mod conflict, could you link your hugslib log? It will show your modlist, and can help weed out the issue in the future if anyone else has this problem.
Looking at it myself, with my very little experience, i think it may be a conflict with Way Better Romance? Not sure though, all the info should be at the bottom area i think. Anyways, i'm sure you know how to read this better than i do, so here it is xD
https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/b45c348f126f96c3496c154c042bf7c9

Interesting, same error as I get, however the conflict with Way Better Romance seems to simple be that Way Better Romance expects a gender, whereas (not sure if intended or not) Hivers (fe from raids) spawn without a gender assigned, making Way Better Romance have a slight hiccup and create an error. Not game breaking, but the hiccups are a nuisance.
Last edited by ErikRedbeard; 9 Jan @ 3:22am
I don't know if it's a bug or a mod conflict, but in my game both hiver factions say that they are made out of 100% baseliners. I realized after getting two crashlanders baseliners that were originally from the factions and they have hivers backgrounds. This only seem to happpen with the hiver factions
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