This would be too op due to knockback and charge time. And also dmg to self.

I think that it should do this,Pros: 30% more damage, 20% more blast radius, and medic's lose 5% of there uber per sticky radius they are in ( if they servive that is) and it blows up when a enemy player get near a sticky( but not cloaded or disguised spys). Cons It can only have 6 sticky out, it has a huge 3 second long arm time and it can't be detonated manuely and you can't charge it. ( this would make it a GREAT defence weapon and keep people from sticky spamming the thing and it would keep your team from dieing as much from medics with M1+w pyros and such I think that these are good weapon stats and I am near sure that valve will use some of these stats for this weapon or all of them and buff/ nerf it if they have to.

+20% projectile speed.
+25% damage.
Faster detonation time (due to the faster projectile speed, projectiles should detonate at the same place as stock stickybomb launcher would.

Stickies shatter harmlessly after 2 seconds of sticking to a surface.
Cannot charge stickies.
-40% explosion radius.

These stats make an opposite of the Scottish Resistance. Fantastic for attacking, but absolutely horrible at defense.

In my opinion it should work like this:
+50% Blast Radius (To affect more targets - it's CROWD controll after all)
+100% Knockback (Because pushing enemies is a crowd controll tool)
On Hit: Decreases Mmmph by 20% and Ubercharge by 10% (To make it more defensive tool)
[Optional] On Hit: Slow movement speed by 50% for one second (Manipulation of enemies)
-33% Damage (Your advantage is pushing enemies via explosions)
-50% Max Active Stickies (You don't have time to put all 8 during fight!)

Originally posted by Watchdog:

On Hit: Decreases Ubercharge by 10%

There is no reason why a class should be able to lower Ubercharge. This is why the Pomson is banned in all competitive matches.

Originally posted by Watchdog:

On Hit: Decreases Mmmph by 20% and Ubercharge by 10% (To make it more defensive tool)

Originally posted by SolarLight:

There is no reason why a class should be able to lower Ubercharge. This is why the Pomson is banned in all competitive matches.

i agree with solarlight on the draining of ubercharge, and 20% is a little much per stickey don't you think? even with -20%, hitting a pyro with all four (even just by a little bit) would drain the Mmmph almost completely! people could just stickey spam a Mmmph out of a pyro without killing him/her if you consider the arm time and the -33% dmg...

Originally posted by SolarLight:

Originally posted by Watchdog:

On Hit: Decreases Ubercharge by 10%

There is no reason why a class should be able to lower Ubercharge. This is why the Pomson is banned in all competitive matches.

So there's no reason to do any special effects at all.
But I get the point that this ability would be overpowered, that's why I stated that it's my opinion.
The idea was about controlling targets in some way, so I thought it would be usefull.

Originally posted by =PB Pruitts5:

Originally posted by Watchdog:

On Hit: Decreases Mmmph by 20% and Ubercharge by 10% (To make it more defensive tool)





i agree with solarlight on the draining of ubercharge, and 20% is a little much per stickey don't you think? even with -50%, hitting a pyro with all four (even just by a little bit) would drain the Mmmph completely! people could just stickey spam a Mmmph out of a pyro without killing him/her if you consider the arm time and the -33% dmg...

Ok, so let's remove the ubercharge drain from this. If we still keep the Mmmph draining as well, let's make it like 5% then. The reason for 20% was because when you get close to pyro, he will refill that on you anyway, but ok.
And -33% dmg has actually nothing to do with this drain, when pyro gets to you, even without Mmmmph you have little chances of survive.

That feels overpowered, both for normal combat and for sticky jumping.

+15% reload speed
0.3 sec faster stickybomb arm time
Able to destroy enemy stickybombs
-50% max stickybombs out
-50% clip size

Little reminder:
Crowd Controll is not only damaging multiple opponents, but also (or even mostly) weakening/disabling their abilities to fight. By this I mean all types of slowing them down, confusing, blinding, decreasing their power...
By this way, Crowd Controll is not defence or offence term - it's both of them.

this is why i included offensive and defensive traits, its not that OP considering dmg is atrocious, but now that i think about it you shouldnt be able to charge the sticky and will disable harmlessly after 5 seconds, but in a way it is still a good defensive weapon because it can push enemies off of the cart, base, etc. while also getting engies away from their damn sentries and clearing a room of enemies and keeping them from clustering up and getting rid of medic+heavy combos (or any other class that is connected to the medic)

They need to have a knockback based sticky launcher.

but 200% more knockback is OP.

Compet with this 200% knockback that would be crazy...

not really. not with all the cons.