VTOL VR Mod Loader

VTOL VR Mod Loader

AH-6 Little Bird
Cyclic Behavior Request
I just wanted to make some suggestions/requests around the cyclic and cyclic trim behavior. Obviously no need to do any of this, but I wanted to share my thoughts in case you find this useful:

Cyclic Control Behavior
  • Add toggle to switch between translational and rotational control (ie. center vs side stick behavior
  • Trimming should not actively change the the cyclic position, but instead the return-to-center position upon releasing the cyclic. This way, trimming does not push the aircraft over while holding the controls steady.

Cyclic Trim Behavior

Currently the trim logic behaves like the following:
  • Right Joystick Forward/Aft/Left/Right = Default trim control. Like a trim hat.
  • Right Joystick Single Press = Trim aircraft to current controls position
  • Right Joystick Press and Hold = Lock trim so the aircraft cannot change trim
  • Right Joystick Double-click = Reset trim

To mimic realistic force trim behavior, I recommend the following changes:
  • Right Joystick Single Press = Lock trim so the aircraft cannot change trim
  • Right Joystick Press and Hold = On release, adjust trim to current controls position

By doing this, controlling the aircraft would work like the following:
  1. Grab cyclic and collective
  2. Press and hold right thumbstick
  3. Adjust controls to achieve desired attitude, altitude, heading, and speed
  4. Stabilize on new attitude, altitude, heading, and speed
  5. Release right thumbstick, which updates return-to-center on cyclic release position
  6. Release cyclic and enjoy SAS keeping aircraft on that desired attitude, altitude, heading, and speed
Last edited by Tuuvas; 12 Jun @ 1:09pm
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DankuwOs  [developer] 12 Jun @ 1:15pm 
the trim stuff makes sense and ill probably do at least the bindings at some point, dont know if theres an easy way for the joystick to not return to zero. but the whole center stick only thing isnt only an aesthetic or realism or whatever choice, its also funny seeing side stick loyalists complain and i dont want to go out of my way to make cursed center stick
Tuuvas 12 Jun @ 2:02pm 
Hopefully you can figure out the return-to-center on cyclic release thing. The majority of VTOL VR's helicopter trim issues would be addressed with that.

As for sticking it to the side stick loyalists... lol. Seeing a side stick in between my legs would certainly be cursed af
Jmsums 12 Jun @ 3:03pm 
Originally posted by DankuwOs:
its also funny seeing side stick loyalists complain and i dont want to go out of my way to make cursed center stick
I love this, and it's really not that hard to just learn center stick, and it feels so much better to fly such a small heli that way
Tuuvas 24 Jun @ 11:55am 
@DankuwOs Thanks for the trim bind changes! Can confirm they work, plus the trim reset on single quick press helps make re-trimming easier.
Gorva 14 Jul @ 8:34am 
Yeah, well, I'm a side stick loyalist. I know it's not realistic, but then this is VR, it feels weird holding my hand onto nothing. With the sidestick, I just rest my hand on my right leg and work it.
I *know* a side stick will look hideous.
But pretty please?

Great job with the chopper, by the way. I love the way it feels!
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