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T02my 12 Aug, 2016 @ 7:14am
Interesting countries to play
Like in title I'd like to share my notes about interesting countries to play in VeF and would like to hear yours.
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Burgundy.

You can join HRE even as being vassal, but beware adding all your provinces to HRE. It can reduce Imperial Authority greatly, and if you have plans to become HRE emperor I would not do that, just add capital and one province which leads to capital.

While being vassal of France you can claim everything around, so once France is at war he may give you province if you has not enough agression points, so only once in begin.

You can fight all vassals of France without taking any agression expansions, because France takes them ( :D :D :D) But you can't take Andorra unless it was integrated by Foix.

Once as vassals are slain you have strenght of army equal of French ones, he can be weakened if he fought coalition war caused by your expansion upon vassals. So be carefull in that.

In 1385 or so you form Personal Union with Flanders if they exist or if they were released later by you. Same happens with Brabant in 1415 I think. Later in 1430~ you get cores on Holland Area.

You ask why play as Burgundy and take all France when you can just play as France? You can't join HRE unless you emperor what can happen way later.

Thought, Burgundian ideas sucks completely.
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Last edited by T02my; 27 Aug, 2016 @ 11:15am
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AndreaParo 24 Aug, 2016 @ 2:17pm 
Burgundy was good on MEIOU, in VEF ideas sucks and is not so funny in the other mod..

What nations do you suggest to play with? :)
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T02my 27 Aug, 2016 @ 11:52am 
Bohemia.

The strongest country of the Holy Roman Empire at the moment, but lesser partner in Personal Union with Luxembourg.

The rise of Bohemia depends on when current HRE's emperor dies and you able to break the chains. While you're under PU, you can invade Silezia by event, what starts first in 1315. If Brandenburg took Legnica, you can return your Luzice cores from them too. Or if Lux is in war with Branden he might return to you cores too.

Once you're free you can try to become HRE emperor, but you have to stop expanding in HRE to don't hurt relation with electors. On other side you can Personal Union with Poland, CB left after break with Luxembourg. You have enough strenght army to force the union on Poland.

Also, while you are under LUX use benefits to forge your country to be strong. Safe money to construct buildings, expand in Silezia, claim everything around and count that Luxembourg will war with your claimed land owners. Or ruin LUX plans to conquer the world when you don't support them in war, heh.

P.S. Usually, when I'm playing for Bohemia I'm trying to take all Slavic lands in HRE until Lubeck and Bamberg then leave them to fight each other and try to unite Slavic lands on East. Ally Muscovy and Bulgaria and split East Europe between them. Once as its done I start to expand in Scandinavia, Italia, Turkey, France, Palestina.
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