Just a replacement for the shotgun is the normal pistol?

*Based off revolver stats not shotgun stats*
+20% dmg
10%slower firing speed
30%less max ammo
+10% higher accuracy
no critz :3

if this is for all classes who have shotguns and i see the fawking heavy hold this like a shotgun, i will LOL my ass off.

Originally posted by level94836:

if this is for all classes who have shotguns and i see the fawking heavy hold this like a shotgun, i will LOL my ass off.

Naw, you know how the soldier holds the righteous bison? It's like that, except the reload animations would have to be different.

I would expect this kind of weapon to fire a single hitscan with about as much damage as a decent shotgun shot (30-60 damage perhaps, this part is still up in the air for me), thus I would expect this to be VERY different from the spy's revolver. It may handle a little more like the colt walker in FoF, with more reliability due to it being a hitscan, with punishments in terms of reload and firing speed.

Only issue is, having a weapon that does as much damage as a shotgun, but has more frustrating mechanics (a slow firing speed would be really obnoxious) would not be superior to the shotgun. So I'm thinking:

-Is a hitscan weapon, the damage you deal will varry less, but you need to land accurate shots.
-Is a revolver, your reload speed is slower, but reloading will refill all six shots, rather than one bullet as a time.

The same idea would be applied for a single action army for spy, giving him a revolver that only reloads one shot at a time but reloads faster.

Either

Is equal to the Spy's revolver

Or

Pros

+30% Damage (One pellet from the shotgun as base)
+10% Accuracy

Cons

-8 Pellets fired
-20% Firing speed

Originally posted by TheTacoLiberator:

Just a replacement for the shotgun is the normal pistol?

That will highly debuff Soldier's original gameplay. So stats are necessary.

Based on shotgun stats:

+50% accurate
+25% firing speed
-66% clip size

the taunt should be the solder putting on glasses then it going. YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEAAAAAA.

Originally posted by Cait:

Either

Is equal to the Spy's revolver

Or

Pros

+30% Damage (One pellet from the shotgun as base)
+10% Accuracy

Cons

-8 Pellets fired
-20% Firing speed

You realize that this would make it do about 24 dmg a shot at point blank range?

thing is with stats that pepole make it SO OP that valve doesnt want to add it and i really want this revolver in its bada*s

+50% Secondary Ammo Capacity
+50% Secondary Clip Size
Consumes 3 Ammo
On Hit: +4 Ammo
+20% Fire rate
-35% Damage
Only shoots one bullet

everyone, it is NO LONGER A SHOTGUN so stop calling it that, its a secondary weapon, NOT a shotgun, also to those who read this, having your stats read and being excepted by valve and added into the game is TOTALY out of the question, and on top of that the forums are NOT EVEN CREATED BY THE WEAPON AUTHORS, SO WTF?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

+100% firing speed
+50% reload speed
upon kill: move faster for 2 seconds and gain minicritz on headshot
-60% damage

I honestly think this would be better for Spy, but whatever.

+ 30% firing speed
+ 40% movement speed while active
- 10% accuracy
- 40% damage
Can duel with other Soldiers with the same weapon