Homeworld Remastered Collection

Homeworld Remastered Collection

Complex EVO [HW Remastered]
Echo Demon 4 Mar, 2020 @ 7:06am
I will now use my words to relay my Concerns
Wow, this mod was a mess 10 years ago and it still is? What the ****? (expletives for emphasis)

I'll say my piece and leave - one too many dry saltines in these threads for my taste, BUT, and this is directly for you, behgins, and not for whoever they are with much advice but no actual insight:


- Why, with dozens of bug reports listed, is the only sticky post one about voice acting?

- How in the hell are there still mechanics and balance issues in vanilla units after all this time?

- Why is there broken english *anywhere* in this mod with money coming in from donors? Shouldn't one of the goals be to hire a ****ing editor for an hour or two of work?

- How is it that basic features aren't optimized or properly finished when new content is being crammed into the production pipeline - seemingly expensive new content?

- Why?

- Why?

- How much time has been spent on this and why isn't it worth perfecting into "the most perfect space RTS ever"? What?


Anyway, I see this is salty upon very close examination, but I also want to make clear my sense of moral fury at having come by to check this mod out after rejecting it many years ago for various issues. I was hugely excited then because of the premise, but walked away annoyed with it. I was really pretty excited to be reminded of it - reasoning that after a decade or so it should be polished into Freespace 2 FSO style excellence...

I'm annoyed again - the very idea - and I won't be subscribing, and high-five to the 42k or so who have and all the percentage of them who really like this mod. This is a really cool thing to do for a masterpiece of a game and I can't imagine how much work has gone into it... and I say again, isn't that ****ing work and devotion worth cleaning up the place, watering the lawn, fixing the leaking pipes, re-doing the badly fitting trim, maybe updating the hideous kitchen and bathroom now that the money is there? Come on man, what in the hell is even happening here? You have a thing of greatness, take care of it.

Also I usually eject myself in cowardly fashion after saying things likely to draw the salty fire of old campaigners, but I'm actually curious about this topic so... i may return. For now though, it's the silent treatment, as is my wont. Think of this as a an angry pedestrian loudly pointing out the obvious deficiencies with some kind of street repair effort then walking off with their small dog in tow. Later he or she will regret their tirade, but only briefly.
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Firestorm🗿 4 Mar, 2020 @ 9:50am 
They don't have enough money to work on it full time, and so progress is very slow.
Last edited by Firestorm🗿; 4 Mar, 2020 @ 9:51am
Echo Demon 4 Mar, 2020 @ 12:57pm 
crap. well if I were a billionaire
Wouldn't there be another way to support you as a developer?
Firestorm🗿 4 Mar, 2020 @ 2:13pm 
Oh and also they are using a big chunk of patreon donations to pay some people to do work for the mod.
that's not a bad thing, you should also give up certain jobs.
Firestorm🗿 4 Mar, 2020 @ 2:18pm 
Originally posted by ~BEATBRAIN~GERMANY®:
that's not a bad thing, you should also give up certain jobs.
bruh those guys need to work their IRL jobs as well since they aint getting enough to bloody live on. Also why are you talking to me like I am one of the devs I ain't involved in the dev process, merely relaying what I know. But tbh I have thought about maybe doing some voicelines for free...
Echo Demon 4 Mar, 2020 @ 2:25pm 
Originally posted by Firestorm:
I have thought about maybe doing some voicelines for free...

Are you a Large Ham? All the best voice actors are Large Hams, especially those who aren't.
Firestorm🗿 4 Mar, 2020 @ 2:27pm 
Originally posted by Exo Datum:
Originally posted by Firestorm:
I have thought about maybe doing some voicelines for free...

Are you a Large Ham? All the best voice actors are Large Hams, especially those who aren't.
Hell no. Quite the bloody opposite. I just thought about doing it bc Beghins put out that pinned post a while back. I was thinking about doing some stuff similar to the ship chatter, if that was needed at all.
Last edited by Firestorm🗿; 4 Mar, 2020 @ 2:29pm
King Pepega 23 Apr, 2020 @ 9:30am 
Originally posted by Firestorm:
Originally posted by ~BEATBRAIN~GERMANY®:
that's not a bad thing, you should also give up certain jobs.
bruh those guys need to work their IRL jobs as well since they aint getting enough to bloody live on. Also why are you talking to me like I am one of the devs I ain't involved in the dev process, merely relaying what I know. But tbh I have thought about maybe doing some voicelines for free...
They can do youtube that pays well.
Firestorm🗿 24 Apr, 2020 @ 1:57pm 
Originally posted by WarBOss GORGUTZ!:
Originally posted by Firestorm:
bruh those guys need to work their IRL jobs as well since they aint getting enough to bloody live on. Also why are you talking to me like I am one of the devs I ain't involved in the dev process, merely relaying what I know. But tbh I have thought about maybe doing some voicelines for free...
They can do youtube that pays well.
Only if you have a large amount of subscribers, in the hundreds of thousands AT LEAST, and even then Youtubers with that many still accept sponsorships with RaId sHaDoW lEgEnDs, so no, Youtube DOES NOT PAY WELL. Working for an actual employer is much more stable in addition. Furthermore, if they were spending time on making Youtube videos it would eat into most of the time they would otherwise use on working on Complex, as believe it or not that ♥♥♥♥ takes a lot more time than just recording then hitting upload. The sheer stupidity of your statement is incredible.

At least what with Corona, the team will have a lot more time on their hands, which shall speed along this year's update. Who knows? maybe we will get A WHOLE EXTRA ONE THIS YEAR! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
Last edited by Firestorm🗿; 24 Apr, 2020 @ 1:57pm
Videos ... here it was not thought through again ..
but it's true, this game has a lot of potential. It is of course difficult to implement this, especially if you want to keep adding new ideas.

I would also find it interesting if you could not install an installer to get a certain rock solid installation. This means that more users can also use this more easily, possibly resulting in more donors.

On the other hand, I would also like to know which costs flow where to get a deeper insight into the development. So here and there more donors can mobilize more money.

Peace out.
King Pepega 24 Apr, 2020 @ 2:57pm 
Originally posted by Firestorm:
Originally posted by WarBOss GORGUTZ!:
They can do youtube that pays well.
Only if you have a large amount of subscribers, in the hundreds of thousands AT LEAST, and even then Youtubers with that many still accept sponsorships with RaId sHaDoW lEgEnDs, so no, Youtube DOES NOT PAY WELL. Working for an actual employer is much more stable in addition. Furthermore, if they were spending time on making Youtube videos it would eat into most of the time they would otherwise use on working on Complex, as believe it or not that ♥♥♥♥ takes a lot more time than just recording then hitting upload. The sheer stupidity of your statement is incredible.

At least what with Corona, the team will have a lot more time on their hands, which shall speed along this year's update. Who knows? maybe we will get A WHOLE EXTRA ONE THIS YEAR! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
beghins could DIE from corona


who's stupid now? :/
who couldn't die from corona or aids, cancer, comets or war. Walking on the street can also be dangerous.
King Pepega 24 Apr, 2020 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by ~BEATBRAIN~GERMANY®:
who couldn't die from corona or aids, cancer, comets or war. Walking on the street can also be dangerous.
STFU & GTFO


I wasn't talking to you!
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