Already posted some in the normal comments, so I'll just do the same here

+15% damage bonus
+ Knockback on target

-20% firing speed
-10% reload speed
- No random critical hits

Seems I started a bit of a trend on it having knockback. Alright

Originally posted by RetroWarrior:

Already posted some in the normal comments, so I'll just do the same here

+15% damage bonus
+ Knockback on target
+ Crits on headshot

-20% firing speed
-10% reload speed
- No random critical hits

Probably not the best, but just some ideas

thats too op not the bonus and crits on headshots too op

I think something like more damage and knockback, but slower speed, lower accuracy, and slower reload

+100% knockback
+20% damae
-when you fire it knocks you back a decent amount
-reload 1 bullet at a time instead of speed loader

When someone suggests another revolver should be added and should have a bonus on headshot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14

+45% damage
+knockback, more knockback the longer the shot
-20% firing speed
-bullets have travel time

How about
+10% dmg bonus
-25% slower reload
+bullets penetrate enemies on kill, like the machina
OR
+(because stopping power = anti personal rounds)
+15% dmg bonus
-25% reload speed
+knock backon target

Originally posted by Maxmokat DK:

Originally posted by RetroWarrior:

Already posted some in the normal comments, so I'll just do the same here

+15% damage bonus
+ Knockback on target
+ Crits on headshot

-20% firing speed
-10% reload speed
- No random critical hits

Probably not the best, but just some ideas

thats too op not the bonus and crits on headshots too op

Dude You know the disadvantages it has? YAH THEIR BIG the crit on headshot? THATS SO HARD TO PULL OFF

Something creative with the Rhino

Hold alt to charge "Rhino" Ability
(critz on charge)
+15% damage
-50% firing speed
-10% Clip Size
+Can store "Rhino Ability" Charges

+35% damage
Knockback on hit
-30% clip size
-15% slower reload speed

Originally posted by Skoprex:

Originally posted by Maxmokat DK:

thats too op not the bonus and crits on headshots too op

Dude You know the disadvantages it has? YAH THEIR BIG the crit on headshot? THATS SO HARD TO PULL OFF

It's overpowered, a direct upgrade to the Ambasador even without knockback, the way he changed it now is still too similar to the Enforcer only with knockback and slightly more downsides.

+ Knocks targets based on how close the enemy is
(Minor knockback at close range, max at point blank, none at medium range and up)

+ Bullets slow enemies (Similar to the Natascha)

- 75% Max primary ammo on wearer (6 shots in reserve if I'm not mistaken)

- Increased bullet spread as you fire (Similar to the Ambasador)


My idea is that the bullets are of a high caliber, with a noticable stopping power like a Rhino. Due to the weight of the gun and bullets, he holds less. Due to the recoil of the high powered revolver, Spy needs to keep the gun steady before firing another accurate shot.

This makes the Rhino useful in a pinch against pursuing enemies like Pyros or Scouts who are chasing you, or to disorientate enemies at close range as a sort of plan B when the knife cannot be used like all revolvers serve as. This one, however, emphesises close range, being less effective at longer ranges especially with it's low ammo capacity.

+5 Health each Disguised Kill
+10 Health each Undisguised Kill
-10% Reaload Speed
-10% Firing Spped
+10% Weapon Swith Time
-50 Starting Health

Bonus 50% damage to sapped buildings
-25% damage to players
-25% damage to buildings

Originally posted by Skoprex:

Originally posted by Maxmokat DK:

thats too op not the bonus and crits on headshots too op

Dude You know the disadvantages it has? YAH THEIR BIG the crit on headshot? THATS SO HARD TO PULL OFF

hard to pull off? not realy. also, valve is most likely not going to add something that already exists with only very slightly altered stats

Originally posted by Scottie:

Originally posted by Skoprex:

Dude You know the disadvantages it has? YAH THEIR BIG the crit on headshot? THATS SO HARD TO PULL OFF

hard to pull off? not realy. also, valve is most likely not going to add something that already exists with only very slightly altered stats

^ This guy gets it