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Snowplow
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Moai 2 Jun, 2015 @ 3:10pm
Tell ya what...
I bet valve is going to use the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reason they used originally to not allow this map to be added. "hurhurhur it's too complex for new players", and yet we have maps like tc_hydro and rd_asteroid. Great logic Valve, just like how you thought everyone's hype for the end of the line update was a good thing to destroy with another hat and reskin update. Yes I mad ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Last edited by Moai; 2 Jun, 2015 @ 3:13pm
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MoiraPrime [VF4-S] 2 Jun, 2015 @ 3:11pm 
Le EOTL snowplow circlejerk exx deee
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Turbo Lover 2 Jun, 2015 @ 3:32pm 
Yeah but nobody bloody plays tc_hydro, there's not even a checkbox for the TC gamemode on the workshop.
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Don Donovan "The Don" Donatello 2 Jun, 2015 @ 3:38pm 
The map was bad and valve didnt want to say something that insinuated that the makers wasted their time, so they made up the complexity excuse to explain why they didn't want it in.
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joe axe-murderer 2 Jun, 2015 @ 3:44pm 
I think when they said it was too complicated they meant how the mechanics work with the train durability and stuff. Either way, not complicated, basically just replacing the timer with the durability.

By their logic, cp_steel is also too complicated, since you can win the game without even capping A, B, C, or D. And the more you cap the longer it takes to cap E.
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an hour 2 Jun, 2015 @ 3:50pm 
bert we finished this joke 7 months ago please stop
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Moai 2 Jun, 2015 @ 3:51pm 
Originally posted by BumFreeze:
bert we finished this joke 7 months ago please stop
Well, the joke was refreshed since the map was added to the workshop.
#6
a skeleton 2 Jun, 2015 @ 3:55pm 
Maps workshop is for servers and players to download maps easily. It's not like the hat-workshop.
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Oriax 2 Jun, 2015 @ 5:10pm 
THIS MAP SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED
It was the bomb, They where just chugging at this map then Valve got mad and said "OMG A EASY MAP TO FOLLOW ITS TO COMPLEX FOR NEW PLAYERS! Now Cp_steel thats an easy map."
TF2 is my favorite game
TF2 is dead
Valve let me down
Until a new update fixes TF2 (competitive update) or (Spy VS Engi) The community will die.
Take it from a guy who has been on TF2 for the last 3-4 years and has HATS
WE DON'T NEED OR WANT HATS
I WILL BUY WEAPONS IF YOU ADD THEM VALVE
ADD SOMETHING GABEN LET TF2 Thrive...
#8
lumplet 2 Jun, 2015 @ 5:13pm 
Originally posted by Darkness Dragon:
THIS MAP SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED
It was the bomb, They where just chugging at this map then Valve got mad and said "OMG A EASY MAP TO FOLLOW ITS TO COMPLEX FOR NEW PLAYERS! Now Cp_steel thats an easy map."
TF2 is my favorite game
TF2 is dead
Valve let me down
Until a new update fixes TF2 (competitive update) or (Spy VS Engi) The community will die.
Take it from a guy who has been on TF2 for the last 3-4 years and has HATS
WE DON'T NEED OR WANT HATS
I WILL BUY WEAPONS IF YOU ADD THEM VALVE
ADD SOMETHING GABEN LET TF2 Thrive...
A P2P that doesn't want hats?

I haven't seen that ever in my life.
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Oriax 2 Jun, 2015 @ 5:13pm 
Originally posted by Classic Scout:
It's not confusing for the map layout. It's probably because it's an attack/defend map, yet it feels like a control point payload mix-up, which can be confusing when you think about it.
Not really have you seen mannpower or astroid? They bloody confuse me a 3-4 vet of the game... Cp_snowplow feels like a childs map
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Mons 2 Jun, 2015 @ 5:56pm 
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Bucksteiner 2 Jun, 2015 @ 6:03pm 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mosTDMO3hJc
#12
CoolJosh3k .com 2 Jun, 2015 @ 9:53pm 
The issue I had with seeing cp_snowplow outright rejected, was the harm it does to the community confidence.

Presumably Valve will be reading this thread and I'd like to suggest that they at least give it a chance to improve. We could have had cp_snowplow as a beta map, or an indication that we may one day see it. Doing nothing but just indirectly telling the community it is "too confusing" is in my opinion very bad pr.
#13
Oriax 3 Jun, 2015 @ 11:45am 
Originally posted by CoolJosh3k | TF2TightRope.com:
The issue I had with seeing cp_snowplow outright rejected, was the harm it does to the community confidence.

Presumably Valve will be reading this thread and I'd like to suggest that they at least give it a chance to improve. We could have had cp_snowplow as a beta map, or an indication that we may one day see it. Doing nothing but just indirectly telling the community it is "too confusing" is in my opinion very bad pr.
True True they do read this. I just hope they understand people are leaving there game and new players don't want to pay for new items... Thus loseing them MONEY
#14
martluca 30 Sep, 2015 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by Darkness Dragon:
Originally posted by CoolJosh3k | TF2TightRope.com:
The issue I had with seeing cp_snowplow outright rejected, was the harm it does to the community confidence.

Presumably Valve will be reading this thread and I'd like to suggest that they at least give it a chance to improve. We could have had cp_snowplow as a beta map, or an indication that we may one day see it. Doing nothing but just indirectly telling the community it is "too confusing" is in my opinion very bad pr.
True True they do read this. I just hope they understand people are leaving there game and new players don't want to pay for new items... Thus loseing them MONEY


Bit late but, you don't leave a game because of 1 map. Also, by your logic, players wouldn't want to pay for items. So they would lose money no matter what.
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