Crusader Kings II

Crusader Kings II

Regent: Assume Power - Vanilla
SinStar87 (He/Him)  [developer] 15 Aug, 2015 @ 3:05am
Thoughts
I'll post ideas I have, not that I have many >.>, for the mod here for informal vote.
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Mr.T 3 Nov, 2015 @ 2:36pm 
Yo Great mod. I have a few questions however:
So I did a few tests and found that once I've become Lord protector as the presiding regent, I am basically the emperor (game mechanically). So the game treats me as if I am the emperor which is fine. So If I died as the 'regent, lord protector, whatever' then the next person in line takes over. But that person that takes over (whatever the succession model may be) is just taking over a 'regency' so what I'd call a fake emperorship. At first this confused me as it would mean that any person standing to take over (say it was an elective succession) would actually lose out as all he is getting is a 'lord protectorship' position which he will have to give up as soon as the real liege reaches of age. But I guess it makes sense, if a lord protector was to die then of course the succession model (whatever it may be) will have to take it's course. I think that once a lord protector gets into power that the only succession law that should be availble is elective. This way it makes sense that regency position changes (if it changes at all) before the child Emperor reaches of age.

Ok that's just a minor comment. Anouther thing is, there isn't any real loss for the guy that takes the emperorship title as Lord protector. What I'm trying to say is that the real Emperor child loses all his titles and becomes a nobody until he reaches of age while this 'Regent' takes over until then right? So like what's to stop this 'regent' from not giving up his new found power. The Child Emperor has nothing if the regent were to simply decline giving back the Emperorship title back to it's true owner. I tested this and found that the Child emperor upon reaching of age could not do squat due to not having anything and lost immediately. So in that regard it's quite unbalanced I think.

These are just some thoughts that I jotted down very quickly so if you need me to elaborate or clear it up (as I wrote all that pretty quickly so there may be some grammatical, spelling errors which may make certain things I wrote not make any sense) then please let me know.

Great mod nonetheless :D
SinStar87 (He/Him)  [developer] 3 Nov, 2015 @ 3:21pm 
Part 1, that's an interesting idea, I'll try to implement something.

Part 2, the child emperor is supposed to declare a war and raise a force and call all loyal vassals and relations to arms if you refuse the demand for the titles. I've no real experience with scripting wars so I guess it didn't pan out. I think I'll limit the regent title to the primary title in a future update.

Thanks for playing it and for the input :)
SinStar87 (He/Him)  [developer] 4 Nov, 2015 @ 7:18am 
Ok I changed it to elective when you are regent in power and redid the war script, also opened it up to indy kings, hopefully it works.
Last edited by SinStar87 (He/Him); 4 Nov, 2015 @ 8:09am
Mr.T 4 Nov, 2015 @ 7:56am 
Ah. Ok I'll give it a test now.
Mr.T 4 Nov, 2015 @ 8:11am 
Right I think it doesnt work now. Basically whenever I assert regency. Nothing happens.
SinStar87 (He/Him)  [developer] 4 Nov, 2015 @ 9:08am 
Ok rewrote alot of the code, hopefully that fixed it.
Mr.T 4 Nov, 2015 @ 9:20am 
Yup just tested it. Seems to work so far! So Awesome that you managed to make it so that the Lord Protector is restricted to just an elective model. A lot better. I'v noticed that you also made it so that the 'regent, lord protector' only takes the Emperor title not any other title. Which I think is good as well.

I'll do some more testing later today when I get home.

I do have one quick question though, does any new title that the 'Lord protector, regent' attain default back to the 'Emperor' in waiting once he/she reaches of age? (I guess I could test that to be fair but thought it better to ask).

Either way great work boss.
SinStar87 (He/Him)  [developer] 4 Nov, 2015 @ 9:38am 
Any equal rank title should transfer back to the Emperor. And if I read my code correctly, if the Emperor is a king at the start the Emperor gets the king title and any emperor titles should you manage to gain an empire in the mean time. *Edit updated, should copy the primary title for the temporary title now, still not sure about the war though.
Suliman 24 Apr, 2016 @ 3:30pm 
Really having blast with this, I've enabled the decision to the ai with some restriction, I especially like the well made events for how troops can appear to aid a claimant in restoring the old regime in the case of military struggle, even as the war drags on.

I am considering allowing for more possibility for regents to grab power in case of incapable kings and so on, but I am afraid of some unforseen side effects, especially if the regent is simply the current heir, which might mess things up. xD
SinStar87 (He/Him)  [developer] 24 Apr, 2016 @ 4:13pm 
Sounds good.
Suliman 8 Apr, 2017 @ 10:37am 
Hehe, the mod seems to be working like a charm with CK2 2.7.1 beta. However, I have a question in my own modded version of your mod, I give lord protectors different titles if they were members of the council. For example a Chancellor regent would become Prime Minister. It is working fine, but i am trying to go even further and give specific titles to different culture but i seem to struggle.

In assert_regency_events for example I made in my special event when chancellor becomes regent:

immediate = {
FROM = {
any_demesne_title = {
IF = {
limit = { has_title_flag = liege_regent }
grant_title_no_opinion = ROOT
}
}
}
IF = {
limit = { muslim = no }
set_special_character_title = title_prime_minister
}
IF = {
limit = { muslim = yes }
set_special_character_title = title_grand_vizier
}
}

But I am only getting the prime minister to work fine, not the grand vizier, what am I doing wrong?
SinStar87 (He/Him)  [developer] 8 Apr, 2017 @ 10:44am 
Did they add muslim = as a condition? If not, that's probably the problem, try religion_group = muslim and NOT = { religion_group = muslim }
Suliman 8 Apr, 2017 @ 11:13am 
Ooooooh thanks for the help, the problem is solved. xD
SinStar87 (He/Him)  [developer] 8 Apr, 2017 @ 11:14am 
:) You're welcome.
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