+ Alt-Fire Launches a puck that knock opponets back, knockpack force increases with distance and at maximum pushes farther than an airblast.
+ Deals 25% more damage
-35% Slower swing speed
- Increased damage taken from melee sources
= Random crits are now random mini-crits

I think it'd be pretty cool if the puck acted similar to the banana in Mannhattan, otherwise have the sandman downfall reducing health.

Alt Fire:Fires a Puck That Pierces Opponent's
Puck Deals Damage Even While Moving On the Ground

-10 Max Health On Wearer
+25% Movement Speed
Blocks Healing While In Use

Originally posted by PiranhaFire69:

Alt Fire:Fires a Puck That Pierces Opponent's
Puck Deals Damage Even While Moving On the Ground

-10 Max Health On Wearer
+25% Movement Speed
Blocks Healing While In Use

Originally posted by FiveEyes:

+ Alt-Fire Launches a puck that knock opponets back, knockpack force increases with distance and at maximum pushes farther than an airblast.
+ Deals 25% more damage
-35% Slower swing speed
- Increased damage taken from melee sources
= Random crits are now random mini-crits

two good ideas

+ Alt-Fire: Fires a Puck that Stuns Opponent's
+ Stun last 5% longer then the Sandman
+ 25% increased damage


- Decreased Re-Charge Rate by 5%
- On hold, 15% slower Run Speed
- 10 Max Health On Wearer


=Random Crits become Randon Mini-Crits

+shots a prodektyel witch stunds a pores and dos 15 dameg up close and 45 on long distenc and anamy can t move ( distence das not mater on close )

- 10 MOVMENT SPEED ON WIER
-10 jump hight on wear

Originally posted by hoodini the magick owl:

+shots a prodektyel witch stunds a pores and dos 15 dameg up close and 45 on long distenc and anamy can t move ( distence das not mater on close )

- 10 MOVMENT SPEED ON WIER
-10 jump hight on wear

-1 jump? scout have 2 jumps

Originally posted by Kibble:

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Developer Suggested Stats:

+Alt-Fire: Launches a puck that marks opponents for death
+15 Max Health
-35% Slower Firing Speed
-No Random Critical Hits

+Alt-Fire: Launches a puck that deals mid damage and returns health on hit proportional to range*
-15 max health on wearer

*damage proportional to range would be 15 base - 45 before moonshot distance. moonshot distance would deal crits and kill lighter classes like scouts and snipers (300% of 45 = 135, couldnt kill medics or above)
*health proportional to range would be 15 base - 65 before moonshot distance. 125 health returned at moonshot distance.

in the same family of the sandman but with a fairly different upside, comparable to the original black box and liberty launcher. Both had one upside and an identical downside making them more or less sidegrades to each other and shared a family in a sense

Originally posted by Kibble:

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Developer Suggested Stats:

+Alt-Fire: Launches a puck that marks opponents for death
+15 Max Health
-35% Slower Firing Speed
-No Random Critical Hits

Nice for MVM , we need your stats!

The puck shouldn't arc in its trajectory.

It should just be a reskin of the sandman its to similar.

a bat is not the same of a hockey stick and a ball is not the same of a puck

how bout puck has the ability to stun, or someone slip on it after throwed?, like a stun or smthng?

couldnt it just be a reskin

puck have: stun and penetrate