(+) +5% move speed on backstab (max. +50%)
(+) Hits every Enemy who is healed by a medic (third degree)

(-) -50% swing speed
(-) +needs 1 second longer to cloak

hows about
-20% swing speed
-25 health
+succeful back stabs heal such like a small health kit
+10% reach

Here's a change that would be purely cosmetic,

+ on backstab near water this knife plays the psycho shower kill noise

( if Party Hard got away with it so can TF2 damnit! also it would say "this knife plays *CLASSIFIED*)

+20% more cloak
+No collide with enemies
+10% cloak on backstab
-Players make loud, horror screams and a large marker appears above you with every backstab
-15% movement speed
-10% cloak on kills that arent backstabs (including revolver)
-Friendly fire on all weapons

Similar to the kunai knife

+ grant 3 secs of invulnerability on backstab
- 40% less maximum health

Btw nice work, here's some candy

Pros:

Builds 10% Speed Boost per Backstab (up to 30%)
On Hit: Bleeding for 3 Seconds

Cons:

-25% Swing Speed
Boost Resets on missed/base attacks

pros: +10 base damage
on hit: bleed for 3 seconds
backstab increases movement speed
cons: backstabing an enemy produces a loud scream from the victim that alerts others if they are nearby and you will be marked for death for 10 seconds
-20% swing speed

+25% Swing speed
On kill 28% Cloak


-15% HP on wearer
Cannot get heal or ammo from dispensers on wearer

Originally posted by Robot Engineer:

+25% Swing speed
On kill 28% Cloak


-15% HP on wearer
Cannot get heal or ammo from dispensers on wearer

big earner 2.0 ?

I know these sort of topics are purely for silly ideas but there are already health-draining and cloak-gaining knives that reduce HP.

Pros:
+ This weapon has a large melee range.

Cons:
- 25% slower swing speed.
- 10% slower movement speed.

Stock, plus:
+Dominated players will hear "Right Behind You" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciL7OKWSu10) playing until they get revenge, swap teams or leave the server

Originally posted by Bird Scoot:

(+) +5% move speed on backstab (max. +50%)
(+) Hits every Enemy who is healed by a medic (third degree)

(-) -50% swing speed
(-) +needs 1 second longer to cloak

This would be good c: It makes the stats fit the knife. Who wants, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bleed? YOU'RE BACKSTABBING. If you get facestabs so much, play a different class. The stats FIT the knife. It's a murderer, stealthy, assassin knife. That's exactly what the stats make you become.

I think it's better off just as a really cool looking Eternal Reward skin. It takes the kidna magical, voodoo-y vibe of the YER and gives the idea a more dark, serial killer-y, face stealing vibe :3

Originally posted by Bird Scoot:

(+) +5% move speed on backstab (max. +50%)
(+) Hits every Enemy who is healed by a medic (third degree)

(-) -50% swing speed
(-) +needs 1 second longer to cloak

How about also:
(-) Death screams after a backstab are much louder.

Originally posted by Security Breach!:

+20% more cloak
+No collide with enemies
+10% cloak on backstab
-Players make loud, horror screams and a large marker appears above you with every backstab
-15% movement speed
-10% cloak on kills that arent backstabs (including revolver)
-Friendly fire on all weapons

friendly fire should not be an downside