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A World At War "Competitive Multiplayer Mod"
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ewt.strat29  [developer] 2 Nov, 2015 @ 1:34pm
New Nation Discussion - Free France
Making them focused on defense and giving them cheaper conscripts and alot of resistance stealth based units.
:honor: ALPHA unit list

Full Unit Tree - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ip_HpVPHVp05DAEvKi2R9iMgTGnJQZVVCksTh2zlGYQ/edit?usp=sharing

SP unit tree -

1SP GUERILLA - Stealth units - 3X Resistence(Tier 1) panzerfaust + smg | 5x normal resistence rifles.
1SP Quick Defense! - Veteran 47mm SA.1937 AT gun

2SP Mle 27 Mortar 81mm - Fires in volleys
2SP 13th Demi-Brigade - 10 man squad(Tier 3) spawns inside Engineer Truck.

3SP British Expeditionary Force - 1xBren Carrier with 2xSmg(Tier 2)+2xRifle(Tier 2) + Matilda(default)

3SP Viva La Resistance - Stealth x10 Resistence(Tier 1) | x2 OOS commandos(with bazooker)) 5 Stealth Resistence with faust(Tier 1)

4SP Radio OP you know!

5SP Maginou Line Defense! - XXX2x 47mm SA.1937 | AT gun 2x 75mm Howitzer 1x hotchkiss | mg 1xRegular Infantry SquadXXX To be decided..

5SP British Counter - TOG 17pndr

7SP Grand Battery - x2 155 GPF 155mm if possible attached x2 laffly s15 toe
(NOTE arty will be improved. I would like to revert to single fire mode + other things)

9SP De Gaulle's Ninth - Sherman jumbo with 17 pounder + ifnantry squad. (ideally 3rd tier with halftrack USA) or if not 4th tier on foot.

:honor:Ideas?
OTHER SP MAYBE?
5 sp maybe ?TOG?? british expeditionary if they stayed

6 sp 3.7 inch
10 Stolen king tiger??!?!?
SP for jumbo?

:honor: Bonuses
Foreign legion more stamina..
Stealth for resistence units
Last edited by ewt.strat29; 4 Nov, 2015 @ 11:44pm
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Barnabeast 2 Nov, 2015 @ 4:44pm 
6sp "Viva la Resistance" sapper at enemies spawn with AT & Dynamite sten gun etc,
8sp "Captured Flak" 5 man Squad with German weapons and Flak 38(20mm)
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ewt.strat29  [developer] 2 Nov, 2015 @ 4:52pm 
viva la resistance 6sp mmmmmm hopefully that mechanic is possible. That sounds like a very big change to gameplay which could be exciting though maybe expliotable? since units spawn invincble. What do others think about this one? Sounds exciting to me, though not sure without testing myself.
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jdudezzz 2 Nov, 2015 @ 5:22pm 
8 SP: http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/france/Renault-UE/Selbstfahrlafette_fur_28-32cm2_HD.jpg

or

http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/france/Renault-UE/Selbstfahrlafettefur28-32cm_HD.jpg
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Rajaz 2 Nov, 2015 @ 8:44pm 
Make their engineers more effective, by having shorter time on depolyments and more effective mines. Maybe even add a concrete bunker and some kind of trenches. And try to fit some of the 50s tanks even though it's inaccurate historically but that's how Japan was balanced out. Even their later 50s tanks are fast and lack armor with good penetrating guns though.
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Thompson 2 Nov, 2015 @ 10:18pm 
Free France is not an axis nation so Quick defence should be infantry with LMG and not AT.
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ewt.strat29  [developer] 2 Nov, 2015 @ 11:09pm 
Originally posted by Thompson:
Free France is not an axis nation so Quick defence should be infantry with LMG and not AT.

hmm do you think it needs to be symetrical?
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pigpig3000 3 Nov, 2015 @ 3:48am 
Originally posted by Winterwolf:
Make their engineers more effective, by having shorter time on depolyments and more effective mines. Maybe even add a concrete bunker and some kind of trenches.
yeah, since Frence are known for the Maginot Line
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Thompson 3 Nov, 2015 @ 8:46am 
Originally posted by Strat29:
Originally posted by Thompson:
Free France is not an axis nation so Quick defence should be infantry with LMG and not AT.

hmm do you think it needs to be symetrical?
Well I don't know what balance-philosophy DMS have since they don't tell us, but it seems in early to mid-game allies is about hitting those timers to overwhelm the axis with inf and axis have to get cheap tank kills instead.
Last edited by Thompson; 3 Nov, 2015 @ 9:02am
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natnat 3 Nov, 2015 @ 11:53am 
7SP French Panther Unit. They had 50 Panthers operational in their regular army until 1950.

Possibly the AMX-50 as their Super Heavy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-50.
Last edited by natnat; 3 Nov, 2015 @ 11:54am
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ewt.strat29  [developer] 3 Nov, 2015 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by Thompson:
Originally posted by Strat29:

hmm do you think it needs to be symetrical?
Well I don't know what balance-philosophy DMS have since they don't tell us, but it seems in early to mid-game allies is about hitting those timers to overwhelm the axis with inf and axis have to get cheap tank kills instead.

I don't think it was intentional.
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ewt.strat29  [developer] 3 Nov, 2015 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by natnat:
7SP French Panther Unit. They had 50 Panthers operational in their regular army until 1950.

Possibly the AMX-50 as their Super Heavy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-50.
really mm panther will be easy to add.
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Simers 3 Nov, 2015 @ 2:44pm 
I like the panther idea!!! a tank we rarely see... :) for obvious reasons... but sp makes it viable. I'd consider it 6 though...
Last edited by Simers; 3 Nov, 2015 @ 2:46pm
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Byzantine 5 Nov, 2015 @ 12:15am 
the best way to fix the late game issue with France is for points they can get a Tiger that has been "appropriated" from the germans. What would be cool as a mechanic to add to competitive MOW, and it could be hard to implement but it is just an idea, for 8 special points, the french can call in any units the enemy has in a small radius. That means if the Germans call in a VT the french can "appropriate" one through their resistance and call one as well however thats costs them 8 points.

Also give the french access to the 88mm, Pak 40.

Another neat mechanic, all resistance fighters have 50% better vision and awareness, so if troops move close they are able to see better. So its harder to sneak up on the french line. It makes their early game a bit better and that will compensate for their weak late game. The mid game they will get slaughtered if they dont have a lead....

Also the panther idea is really good too and it will be better, but 6 is too cheep, with the cost at 7 it forces a player to save and they have better inf so they can trade at the start.

:D
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ewt.strat29  [developer] 5 Nov, 2015 @ 12:21am 
The vision is very interesting, that could be something I really think we can play with and implement.
In regards to the panther we decided to take it out. Due to them having too many SP tanks now. Cule made a really really sweet sherman jumbo 17pounder with great decals. We decdied to go with that to represent degaulles army going into paris.
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Electrolf 5 Nov, 2015 @ 12:37am 
If I can ask.. as super heavy, perhaps, a ARL 44 would be nice? There are also many games or sides to buy / port the model for it. It would be sort of a Panther / Tiger hybrid.
Also super mod.
Last edited by Electrolf; 5 Nov, 2015 @ 12:37am
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