ARK: Survival Evolved

ARK: Survival Evolved

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YMD  [utvecklare] 31 jul, 2016 @ 10:38
Regarding Annunaki's Crashes
*Edit: Annunaki has stopped doing this in the recent patch. No more crashes reported.*

To everyone: This mod does NOT crash servers, its already confirmed and tested running fine on many live servers alongside other dino mods without annunaki.
Annunaki Mod is the one doing crashes intentionally on ALL other dino mods except its own, proven and tested already, and even the author has finally admitted to it after deceiving players and modders for weeks.
Senast ändrad av YMD; 5 aug, 2016 @ 9:32
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YMD  [utvecklare] 3 aug, 2016 @ 5:56 
The problem is not about having to make it accommodate other mods. By default all ark mods work with each other, even if the mod authors do nothing (with the exception of total conversions caz those arn't really mods but a different version of the game altogether). And even if for some reason they can't work together, it would just show you that you cant spawn the mod's dinos or engrams being loaded at all.
It's only if something is being done that causes a crash, this can't happen unless a modder goes out of his way to put specific logic that executes to call an invalid operation that the server cannot recover from. Based on crash error logs, it looks like network settings were modified on dino characters causing it to crash.
I've not put anything that can change network settings on other dinos, though i and many other good modders ive spoken to know how to, we refrain from such actions by an unspoken rule of conduct.
I'm still willing to give current things the benefit of doubt, but this kind of thing may spread if it gets out of hand, such as structure mods doing this to other structure mods, when modders learn how to do it and are dishonest, they might crash servers if it uses any other mod they don't like. In that case will you be prepared to only use annunaki as the one and only mod on your server forever? If so might as well make it a Total conversion then, but those kinds arn't popular for exactly this reason.

And if u think about it, if it's really a bug due to warden's having some bad coding, then why doesn't it also crash the same error with other annunaki dinos? Is there a distinction being made between dinos from annunaki versus dinos from other mods? Why is a distinction being made and why does this crash only target non-annunaki dinos? Why is a distinction being made at all, or even necessary for that matter?
retsam1 3 aug, 2016 @ 22:21 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Zaphod4th:
Ursprungligen skrivet av Pegi16:
In that case will you be prepared to only use annunaki as the one and only mod on your server forever?



dafug are you talking about? I play Annunaki with 20+ more mods with no issues.

Peg's mod and others that create dino's were being set to 1shot, crash servers, etc that tried to kill Annunaki genesis's wardens etc. In other words if you tried to attack an AG warden with a Dgod, the server would crash or 1 shot the dgod dino.

Peg's rightful concern thus is that this sort of malicious shennanigans has been a bad thing and that it could put similarly malicious thoughts into the minds of other mod makers(could... not saying it is/has.... yet).

WC in my opinion is partially at fault for this with their grooming people to compete with their mods for chances at their mods being bought and makers hired to work for wc(as ben was with the center map).

However, malicious intent by mod makers does have accountability... not atm with WC(unless they force steam to remove the makers from their workshop and disqualify them from mod contest winning.

At the moment there is growing speculation that WC has just quietly disqualified Annunaki Genesis from the contest winning but to save face/trouble they're not directly making such public. In other words, AG will attempt to submit but when winners are announced they'll never see their name as the winner.

That said though, Steam's ToS is pretty clear that malicious intent and sabotage with mods of other mod makers is ground for steam bans.

So Peg and other mod makers (even still now) have grounds for going after AG still, even if Psycho of AG has "resigned". His admitting to what he did in his good bye post finally is grounds enough alone if enough report him.

Additionally, due to the wording of Psycho's exiting post, it seems that the mod is to be placed in permanent maintenance mod and the reboot on hold. While Psycho cites his health as the main reason, it seemed a bit strange given the context of the vindictive nature of the language in the post later and throughout. I know of 2 AG servers already planning to convert to DinoOverhaul X and a third considering just ending their server altogether.

My advice then would be for AG server owners to wait and see come the next major core game update to see how well/readily AG adapts to it. If not, then it is probably a good indication to highly consider other mod alternatives.

Additionally, this should give some other mod makers the motivation to work harder and to promote that they -work with- other mod makers as best as possible to ensure that the the players and server owners benefit. Such mod makers and their mods then invariably will be more respected and used versus the ones that want to play shenanigans like AG is/was.
Senast ändrad av retsam1; 3 aug, 2016 @ 22:33
YMD  [utvecklare] 4 aug, 2016 @ 9:18 
Zaphod4th doesnt even use my mods. He's just trolling, probably sent here by Annunaki, look at his account it's quite obvious. His previous posts were all similarly biased.
Senast ändrad av YMD; 4 aug, 2016 @ 9:20
YMD  [utvecklare] 4 aug, 2016 @ 9:26 
I've checked with 4 other mod authors from different dino mods. They have tested and gotten the exact same crash error message as mine after reproducing the same steps. Videos have been uploaded on youtube as proof of this. So there's no denying its true. Zaphod4th, Elitegamer are just some of annunaki's tools spreading lies to mislead the public from knowing the truth. Of course they can't post videos or get verification from other mod authors. So just ignore them
YMD  [utvecklare] 4 aug, 2016 @ 16:53 
Just posted by Annunaki finally admit after burying posts and lying for weeks:

"It was a bad call from us to implement the Warden mechanic. We won’t deny that, seeing how things worked out for everyone, but we all have the right to learn and we’ve made this mistake in our experience of programming."
retsam1 4 aug, 2016 @ 20:57 
A mistake is something unintentional. This wasn't a mistake. This was a conscious decision on their part.
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