The problem is not about having to make it accommodate other mods. By default all ark mods work with each other, even if the mod authors do nothing (with the exception of total conversions caz those arn't really mods but a different version of the game altogether). And even if for some reason they can't work together, it would just show you that you cant spawn the mod's dinos or engrams being loaded at all.
It's only if something is being done that causes a crash, this can't happen unless a modder goes out of his way to put specific logic that executes to call an invalid operation that the server cannot recover from. Based on crash error logs, it looks like network settings were modified on dino characters causing it to crash.
I've not put anything that can change network settings on other dinos, though i and many other good modders ive spoken to know how to, we refrain from such actions by an unspoken rule of conduct.
I'm still willing to give current things the benefit of doubt, but this kind of thing may spread if it gets out of hand, such as structure mods doing this to other structure mods, when modders learn how to do it and are dishonest, they might crash servers if it uses any other mod they don't like. In that case will you be prepared to only use annunaki as the one and only mod on your server forever? If so might as well make it a Total conversion then, but those kinds arn't popular for exactly this reason.

And if u think about it, if it's really a bug due to warden's having some bad coding, then why doesn't it also crash the same error with other annunaki dinos? Is there a distinction being made between dinos from annunaki versus dinos from other mods? Why is a distinction being made and why does this crash only target non-annunaki dinos? Why is a distinction being made at all, or even necessary for that matter?

Hey ̀͠͏̡Pegi16̖̲͕ you obviosly know quite a bit in the modding system. In AG's most recent patch notes they say they plan on changing Warden BP names to conteract the crashing error. What are BP names and you think that can fix the current crash errors everone is getting.

I asked another modder to test with his own dino mod creatures, he says that the annunaki warchief crashes him with the same error message. He was not using any of my mods either.

No bp names are not the cause of crashes and annunaki knows this. Actually any dino modder knows this.

annunaki are taking the piss and i cant believe they not been pulled over this.
As good as the mod is - they do not own a monopoly on what we can and cannot install on our servers.
Ark devs should intervene and make them sort their code out or remove the mod from steam till it is sorted and doesnt crash servers.
Days of constant crashing has seen players dwindle on my server.
So thanks annunaki.

I already know how to crash it with Warchief and thats the first thing im testing when this supposeed 'fix' is put in. Its getting harder and harder to trust them and I really dont have high hopes now this will fix it and am more counting on it continuing. Which is sad I loved using their mod before all of this started and all this has done is make me use another mod or stop playing all together.

Originally posted by ̀͠͏̡Pegi16̖̲͕:

The problem is not about having to make it accommodate other mods. By default all ark mods work with each other, even if the mod authors do nothing (with the exception of total conversions caz those arn't really mods but a different version of the game altogether). And even if for some reason they can't work together, it would just show you that you cant spawn the mod's dinos or engrams being loaded at all.
It's only if something is being done that causes a crash, this can't happen unless a modder goes out of his way to put specific logic that executes to call an invalid operation that the server cannot recover from. Based on crash error logs, it looks like network settings were modified on dino characters causing it to crash.
I've not put anything that can change network settings on other dinos, though i and many other good modders ive spoken to know how to, we refrain from such actions by an unspoken rule of conduct.
I'm still willing to give current things the benefit of doubt, but this kind of thing may spread if it gets out of hand, such as structure mods doing this to other structure mods, when modders learn how to do it and are dishonest, they might crash servers if it uses any other mod they don't like. In that case will you be prepared to only use annunaki as the one and only mod on your server forever? If so might as well make it a Total conversion then, but those kinds arn't popular for exactly this reason.

And if u think about it, if it's really a bug due to warden's having some bad coding, then why doesn't it also crash the same error with other annunaki dinos? Is there a distinction being made between dinos from annunaki versus dinos from other mods? Why is a distinction being made and why does this crash only target non-annunaki dinos? Why is a distinction being made at all, or even necessary for that matter?

This is actually considered a Cybercrime.

Intentional Injection of Code with a Specific Malicious Intent to Disable a System and/or Cause Loss of Data.

These modders are so immature,so child like and yet some of these people are 30+.

Their silly idea of crashing out servers is illegal. If they posted a notice on their mod that it WILL crash servers that run other dino mods, that makes it different.

Same thing with everyone posting these silly Creative Common Licenses and telling Steam users that they now Agree to a new contract external the Valve Steam Workshop Content contract and agreement as outlined in Section of the Steam Agreement. I direct such modders to read Sgurous v. Transunion - 7th Circuit

Pegi, you really busted this out big time. What makes their actions criminal is specific intent.

All required now is someone with the resources, and care to file a criminal complaint. Such behaviour like this cannot be allowed to catch on. Look at the Creative Commons logo appearing on so many Workshop mods - these modders are using an external license which specifically prevents 'derivatives' - yet their Workshop agreement in Section 6 specifically allows for Valve to use all of their content and create as many derivatives as Valve wishes.

It is really a shame what avarice for popularity in a game modding community where one be remembered a half-decade later will drive people to do.

Originally posted by ̀͠͏̡Pegi16̖̲͕:

The problem is not about having to make it accommodate other mods. By default all ark mods work with each other, even if the mod authors do nothing (with the exception of total conversions caz those arn't really mods but a different version of the game altogether). And even if for some reason they can't work together, it would just show you that you cant spawn the mod's dinos or engrams being loaded at all.
It's only if something is being done that causes a crash, this can't happen unless a modder goes out of his way to put specific logic that executes to call an invalid operation that the server cannot recover from. Based on crash error logs, it looks like network settings were modified on dino characters causing it to crash.
I've not put anything that can change network settings on other dinos, though i and many other good modders ive spoken to know how to, we refrain from such actions by an unspoken rule of conduct.
I'm still willing to give current things the benefit of doubt, but this kind of thing may spread if it gets out of hand, such as structure mods doing this to other structure mods, when modders learn how to do it and are dishonest, they might crash servers if it uses any other mod they don't like. In that case will you be prepared to only use annunaki as the one and only mod on your server forever? If so might as well make it a Total conversion then, but those kinds arn't popular for exactly this reason.

And if u think about it, if it's really a bug due to warden's having some bad coding, then why doesn't it also crash the same error with other annunaki dinos? Is there a distinction being made between dinos from annunaki versus dinos from other mods? Why is a distinction being made and why does this crash only target non-annunaki dinos? Why is a distinction being made at all, or even necessary for that matter?

I completely agree with you. I only posted this because we've had so many issues for days on end and this was the only way for our server to be back stable. Figured it could help some other server owners in the process. This whole thing they're doing is completely insane.

Originally posted by Tomhud™:

annunaki are taking the piss and i cant believe they not been pulled over this.
As good as the mod is - they do not own a monopoly on what we can and cannot install on our servers.
Ark devs should intervene and make them sort their code out or remove the mod from steam till it is sorted and doesnt crash servers.
Days of constant crashing has seen players dwindle on my server.
So thanks annunaki.

Supposedly Annunaki is being quietly disqualified from winning any future mod contests for the time being due to this and as well there is discussion about having them removed from the workshop.

However, you dont need to wait for wild card. AG's actions are malicious and violate Steam's Terms of Service in regards to mods/work shop content.

I encourage anyone and everyone to file complaints against AG. Perhaps when the 1 who left and 2 remaining on the team see not just their mod in jeopardy but also their accounts on steam risking being banned, they'll change their tune, instead of trying enforce an extortion racket like they have been.

no theres no proof. if ag fixes this, that's all is needed, nobody should have to pursue this kind of thing it will be difficult for everyone.
but till now i havnt heard a proper response from them regarding this, thats the problem and its been dragging on a long time now. dont even know if they are finding a 'fix' or not. if it continues forever then players have a right to complain.

Originally posted by ̀͠͏̡Pegi16̖̲͕:

no theres no proof. if ag fixes this, that's all is needed, nobody should have to pursue this kind of thing it will be difficult for everyone.
but till now i havnt heard a proper response from them regarding this, thats the problem and its been dragging on a long time now. dont even know if they are finding a 'fix' or not. if it continues forever then players have a right to complain.

I think if you made a complete overhaul then we would all be happy and live amazing ark lives from here on out. Pegi16 for president !

Itsr2ghgaming is making a bionic overhaul, all cyborg dinos.
7HoursWide is making a new dino overhaul.
ill be supporting them behind the scenes.

Also u can try mike's dino overhaul x, or ibg's dino overhaul.
Harbinger has a few addon dino mods like mine, such as the protodrakes.

Originally posted by retsam1:

Originally posted by Tomhud™:

annunaki are taking the piss and i cant believe they not been pulled over this.
As good as the mod is - they do not own a monopoly on what we can and cannot install on our servers.
Ark devs should intervene and make them sort their code out or remove the mod from steam till it is sorted and doesnt crash servers.
Days of constant crashing has seen players dwindle on my server.
So thanks annunaki.

Supposedly Annunaki is being quietly disqualified from winning any future mod contests for the time being due to this and as well there is discussion about having them removed from the workshop.

However, you dont need to wait for wild card. AG's actions are malicious and violate Steam's Terms of Service in regards to mods/work shop content.

I encourage anyone and everyone to file complaints against AG. Perhaps when the 1 who left and 2 remaining on the team see not just their mod in jeopardy but also their accounts on steam risking being banned, they'll change their tune, instead of trying enforce an extortion racket like they have been.

where is this discussion taking place as ive not seen anything in regard to it.
Also i reported annunaki - and no i wasnt happy about it - but if any modders adds code to crash servers then they deserve to be reported.
But reportign them is one thing - if the posts go unread then nothing will be done about it - till another modder decides to pull the same stunt.

Apparently annunaki author psycho banned me from commenting again and is deleting all questions about crashing other dino mods. Elitegamer11388 is also desperately defending them but he's biased and 'bought out' with annunaki tribute dinos given to him, so hes obviously lying through his teeth and a tool. Plus he claims that he use Tek Tier Plus and didnt crash with it, we know its a lie because i've actually talked with its mod author Itsr2ghgaming who already tested against annunaki and got the same crash error with his dinos.

i can test the tek teir and get back to you.
As for elitegamer - he actually is a good guy in all of this and proberly cant believe Annunaki would stoop so low as to do this.I mean - would u believe it,if it wasnt happening to you.
But flip the coin - if the mod is not crashing with Tek teir Dinos then that means they are targetting your mod.
But until we have more proof nothing can say about it and have to take him at his word.

I will check this though and see if it does the same crash.

BRB

Nope Elitegamer actually has a grudge against me. I blocked him for being a rude troll long ago, till now he's been bad mouthing and spreading rumours about me everywhere. And yes he's been given special items by them.
No like i said i talked with the Tek Tier dino's mod author himself. The author verified himself that his bionic dinos do crash as well when repeating the same test steps like in your video example.