is good :D

+10 damage
-10 damage

There, the weapon will be not a reskin. .3.

These actually seem really balanced. Maybe the deploy time could be 30%? Idk good thoughts anyway.

This would make spies useless as all this damage boost would take out a spy in around one hit and destroying a sapper in one hit itself is a little op however if you were add something like 40% building health i could see how this would be a little more balanced but even then tag team engie teams would bypass the cons and make this pretty op overall

Originally posted by bombthezoms:

This would make spies useless as all this damage boost would take out a spy in around one hit and destroying a sapper in one hit itself is a little op however if you were add something like 40% building health i could see how this would be a little more balanced but even then tag team engie teams would bypass the cons and make this pretty op overall

btw by tag team i mean a jag engie builds while a nailbiter engie defends the sentry that is built

Originally posted by bombthezoms:

This would make spies useless as all this damage boost would take out a spy in around one hit and destroying a sapper in one hit itself is a little op however if you were add something like 40% building health i could see how this would be a little more balanced but even then tag team engie teams would bypass the cons and make this pretty op overall

It's called TEAM fortress 2, not Spy fortress 2. Besides, an uber and a demo would do a better job than a sapper-happy spy anyway. And plus, there's a slower swing speed, which counters the overall damage output against spies. They'll be able to use their *gasp* revolvers to kill the engineer while the sentry's sapped/disabled.

TL;DR: Swing speed counters the damage so that engies don't go swinging around their wrenches while healed and take out everything and spies have guns.

that could be a bit op when combat engi considering that the swing speed is only 10% less which sounds like a lot but it really isn't because how many times has amedic killed you with an ubersaw? that doesn't have a damage buff and he can't fly across the map with a push of a button

Originally posted by Dr.Cat:

that could be a bit op when combat engi considering that the swing speed is only 10% less which sounds like a lot but it really isn't because how many times has amedic killed you with an ubersaw? that doesn't have a damage buff and he can't fly across the map with a push of a button

The only reason a medic could kill you with an ubersaw is because he has a team to back him up because meds are so rare in normal games. Engies have less health, no regen and most likely no team to back them up.

it needs +100% crit rate + 100000000000000000000000000000000 damage and -1% deploy time

Originally posted by TM30:

Pros:
+10% damage on primary and secondary weapons
When active:
+25% damage bonus
+50% damage to buildings (Removes sappers in one hit)

Cons:
-25% deploy time
-10% swing speed

Originally posted by Smurf ッ:

it needs +100% crit rate + 100000000000000000000000000000000 damage and -1% deploy time

you guys are like light switches,millions are like you and you are unoriginal

The -25% Deploy Time is actually a pro, not a con.

Since it decreases the time to deploy the weapon, then it means it would be faster to be taken out =P

What you probably meant was +25% Deploy Time, increasing the time it takes to take it out

Originally posted by Soapmactuna:

The -25% Deploy Time is actually a pro, not a con.

Since it decreases the time to deploy the weapon, then it means it would be faster to be taken out =P

What you probably meant was +25% Deploy Time, increasing the time it takes to take it out

Yes, that is what I meant.

Reduce the Damage for Primary and Secondary weapons to 5% and this is a good weapon.