"So hopefully accuracy trumps balancing"
unfortunately there's a very slim chance it will :c

Originally posted by Whistletone:

"So hopefully accuracy trumps balancing"
unfortunately there's a very slim chance it will :c

Community will nerf and balance it out it was the very first of its kind and is the model on which we have built many more smgs and assault rifles

Originally posted by SWATmember95:

Originally posted by Whistletone:

"So hopefully accuracy trumps balancing"
unfortunately there's a very slim chance it will :c

Community will nerf and balance it out it was the very first of its kind and is the model on which we have built many more smgs and assault rifles

ah ok

Isn't the Stg44/closed bolt or something? It doesn't seem to chamber a round upon a fresh reload.

The mkb42, which was an earlier trail version of the rifle fired from a open bolt.

The mp43/mp44/stg44 fired from a closed bolt.

Not only was it the first of its kind but it happened to be very effective, because while it was heavy, it just happened to have everything in the right proportions to make it the most controllable intermediate cartridge firing rifle ever. Still to this day. Vickers Tactical and a few other youtube channels show how controllable this rifle is.

I have the semi-automatic clone, and the recoil impulse is almost non-existant, my AR15 feels like a .308 bolt gun by comparison.

Originally posted by NavyCuda iB:

The mkb42, which was an earlier trail version of the rifle fired from a open bolt.

The mp43/mp44/stg44 fired from a closed bolt.

Not only was it the first of its kind but it happened to be very effective, because while it was heavy, it just happened to have everything in the right proportions to make it the most controllable intermediate cartridge firing rifle ever. Still to this day. Vickers Tactical and a few other youtube channels show how controllable this rifle is.

I have the semi-automatic clone, and the recoil impulse is almost non-existant, my AR15 feels like a .308 bolt gun by comparison.

yep in fact hundreds of american troops when seeing a dropped stg44 would race to it and fight over it like a pack of dogs and leave their thompsons behind, much to the bewilderment of the officers who now had staches of thompsons that had no use besides gaining rust. The americans found the gun better to use and less likely to jam in a situation. It was the prefered weapon on both sides since ammo for the gun was plentiful. All u had to do was kill another guy who had the same gun and take his ammo. But i never remember recoil from such a gun.

Originally posted by SWATmember95:

Originally posted by NavyCuda iB:

The mkb42, which was an earlier trail version of the rifle fired from a open bolt.

The mp43/mp44/stg44 fired from a closed bolt.

Not only was it the first of its kind but it happened to be very effective, because while it was heavy, it just happened to have everything in the right proportions to make it the most controllable intermediate cartridge firing rifle ever. Still to this day. Vickers Tactical and a few other youtube channels show how controllable this rifle is.

I have the semi-automatic clone, and the recoil impulse is almost non-existant, my AR15 feels like a .308 bolt gun by comparison.

yep in fact hundreds of american troops when seeing a dropped stg44 would race to it and fight over it like a pack of dogs and leave their thompsons behind, much to the bewilderment of the officers who now had staches of thompsons that had no use besides gaining rust. The americans found the gun better to use and less likely to jam in a situation. It was the prefered weapon on both sides since ammo for the gun was plentiful. All u had to do was kill another guy who had the same gun and take his ammo. But i never remember recoil from such a gun.

Savage.

I don't want to start another thread, but I noticed another error with the STG44.

The dust cover doesn't open when first charging the rifle.

I want this weapon in the base game so bad.
PLZ devs.

Originally posted by zombiecrc:

I want this weapon in the base game so bad.
PLZ devs.

Another slow firing assault rifle that is heavy as heck? For the Insurgents to get another pile of metal and wooden old guns? And damage that is probably same as the AKM?

You are better off having this as a skin bro, it does nothing new. Pretty sure the only army that uses it is the FSA, and even then the model may not be usable for commercial purposes.

Originally posted by Whistletone:

Originally posted by SWATmember95:

yep in fact hundreds of american troops when seeing a dropped stg44 would race to it and fight over it like a pack of dogs and leave their thompsons behind, much to the bewilderment of the officers who now had staches of thompsons that had no use besides gaining rust. The americans found the gun better to use and less likely to jam in a situation. It was the prefered weapon on both sides since ammo for the gun was plentiful. All u had to do was kill another guy who had the same gun and take his ammo. But i never remember recoil from such a gun.

Savage.

Well the gun was so good that Americans wanted it rather than a tommy. Thats saying alot for german engineering. Russians sometimes got those too but frankly they either weren't allowed to take such weapons since they were german or they were too prideful to let go of "stronk soviet steel"

Originally posted by SWATmember95:

Originally posted by NavyCuda iB:

The mkb42, which was an earlier trail version of the rifle fired from a open bolt.

The mp43/mp44/stg44 fired from a closed bolt.

Not only was it the first of its kind but it happened to be very effective, because while it was heavy, it just happened to have everything in the right proportions to make it the most controllable intermediate cartridge firing rifle ever. Still to this day. Vickers Tactical and a few other youtube channels show how controllable this rifle is.

I have the semi-automatic clone, and the recoil impulse is almost non-existant, my AR15 feels like a .308 bolt gun by comparison.

yep in fact hundreds of american troops when seeing a dropped stg44 would race to it and fight over it like a pack of dogs and leave their thompsons behind, much to the bewilderment of the officers who now had staches of thompsons that had no use besides gaining rust. The americans found the gun better to use and less likely to jam in a situation. It was the prefered weapon on both sides since ammo for the gun was plentiful. All u had to do was kill another guy who had the same gun and take his ammo. But i never remember recoil from such a gun.

this is my new copypasta

Originally posted by SWATmember95:

Originally posted by Whistletone:

Savage.

Well the gun was so good that Americans wanted it rather than a tommy. Thats saying alot for german engineering. Russians sometimes got those too but frankly they either weren't allowed to take such weapons since they were german or they were too prideful to let go of "stronk soviet steel"

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Originally posted by SWATmember95:

Originally posted by Whistletone:

Savage.

Thats saying alot for german engineering. Russians sometimes got those too but frankly they either weren't allowed to take such weapons since they were german or they were too prideful to let go of "stronk soviet steel"

Was the PPSh-41 saying a lot for Russian engineering, since the Germans were fighting over them like a pack of dogs? Where was that German engineering in the G41?

Also http://i.imgur.com/xBr9iIY.png don't tell anyone about these comrades betraying the mother land ;P

Originally posted by JohnnyRaygun:

Originally posted by SWATmember95:

Thats saying alot for german engineering. Russians sometimes got those too but frankly they either weren't allowed to take such weapons since they were german or they were too prideful to let go of "stronk soviet steel"

Was the PPSh-41 saying a lot for Russian engineering, since the Germans were fighting over them like a pack of dogs? Where was that German engineering in the G41?

Also http://i.imgur.com/xBr9iIY.png don't tell anyone about these comrades betraying the mother land ;P

the russians and germans were so egotistical u couldn't take so much as a bullet or you would be deemed a traitor. Funny how that reflects the greatest ego war of all history.

Originally posted by SWATmember95:

Originally posted by JohnnyRaygun:

Was the PPSh-41 saying a lot for Russian engineering, since the Germans were fighting over them like a pack of dogs? Where was that German engineering in the G41?

Also http://i.imgur.com/xBr9iIY.png don't tell anyone about these comrades betraying the mother land ;P

the russians and germans were so egotistical u couldn't take so much as a bullet or you would be deemed a traitor. Funny how that reflects the greatest ego war of all history.

That's not even remotely true. Sure, the Soviets and Germans weren't exactly "civil" in the terms of the rules of war, but using the others' weaponry was not considered traitorous. Tons of PPSh-41s were sent back to get retooled to fire the 9x19mm cartridge. It was called the MP41(r) with others not being tooled called the MP717(r) and fired the 7.63X25mm Mauser since it was similar to the 7.62x25mm Tokarev cartridge. Even came with a German manual of operation.

Not to mention the T-34s/KV-1s captured and used in the field. Soviets used captured Panzer IIIs/IVs/Panthers.

They may have hated each other and their ideologies but a weapon is a weapon and if you can use their own weapons to kill them, that's even better. Sorry, but you're talking out of your ass.