The Bug i do not believe is PP(U) related.

bOnlyAllowSpecifiedEngrams=false

And still the Apiary and PP(U) specific engrams are not showing, therefore i suspect this problem is a mod we are using.

I will restart and remove each one to see if we can identify the culprit if in fact that is the problem.

I will work from the bottom up of the current mod list.

628683077 Primitive Plus Unrestricted
618916953 Cute Hair
613864333 Progressive Weapons
516096294 Perfect Hair!
576432474 Skin Mod (Helmets)
572350041 Coffer chests
495889006 ROTA
558651608 Bridges
600015460 Ark Pub
544598236 Planting

The main problem now is that the Engram List is no longer behaving.

bOnlyAllowSpecifiedEngrams=True is now showing things in the list that are set to hidden.

I have removed all MODs and am just working with PP(U) for now in an attempt to make engrams such as auto-turrents and machined rifles disappear.

I have placed a pregenerated PrimitvePlusOfficial Engram list into the Game.ini file.

I suppose what i should have done is remove all engrams. Set bOnlyAllowSpecifiedEngrams to true, started the server to see if zero engrams appear.

That is my next restart.

Even with only the default PrimitivePlus Official Engram List - Every single Ark engram is showing.

I have blanked the engrams listing completely and left bOnlyAllowSpecifiedEngrams set to TRUE

I am at a total loss now.

It was working this morning on startup and through the first few mods - no problem.

Now i can't get the vanilla ark engrams to stop showing. Fabricator, machine Rifle, everything is showing no matter what i set the bOnlyAllowSpecifiedEngrams flag to.

There are no other non-map mods installed.

The Map is Valhalla.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=629834465

As you can see engrams not even normally allowed are showing through.

I don't know if i should delete the mod and reupload it or what.

I add the mods back, and the Engram Control returns, EXCEPT no Primitive Plus Engrams, even though they are listed.

Ive done 12 hours today. I feel like my brain is goo.

I am done for the night.

Sorry, just getting caught up. If you use bOnlyAllowSpecifiedEngrams = true, you will have to specify the PP engrams with any others you'd like. Did that not work?

Fale or True the situation has been the same with Vanilla Engrams. I'm not able to modify them.

Originally posted by complexminded:

Sorry, just getting caught up. If you use bOnlyAllowSpecifiedEngrams = true, you will have to specify the PP engrams with any others you'd like. Did that not work?

It works, but it **will not show ANY PP+ engrams** Only the engrams that are Vanilla Ark + the added Mods.

With bOnlyAllowSpecifiedEngrams=False, it shows all vanilla Ark engrams - no mod engrams.

In other words Mods = NO PP+ Engrams showing; However, if i craft a spear, its a PP+ spear, smithy is the PP+ smithy.

We can harvest all the PP+ items, just that we are not getting PP+ drops from the Dinos (spare ribs, bacon, chicken).

If i make a bookshelf, its a PP+ bookshelf.

So to summarize:

bOnlyAllowSpecifiedEngrams=true only works for the vanilla items and the mods added. No lumber, or anything PP+ shows in the Engram list.

Ralx can give you a clearer idea perhaps since he us player on my server.

Passive Primitive Plus items. (Things that are gathered/harvested off of creatures) and visuals of base items that are altered within the Primitive Plus mod currently show/are active.

Engrams/Engram manipulation (aka hiding certain things etc) from the Primitive Plus mod are currently not showing up with mods.

Engrams/Engram manipulation with just the Primitive Plus mod only, are showing all tiers (tech included). **Based on findings by talking with Briana and testing on her Server/SP**

Originally posted by Ralx:

Passive Primitive Plus items. (Things that are gathered/harvested off of creatures) and visuals of base items that are altered within the Primitive Plus mod currently show/are active.

Engrams/Engram manipulation (aka hiding certain things etc) from the Primitive Plus mod are currently not showing up with mods.

Engrams/Engram manipulation with just the Primitive Plus mod only, are showing all tiers (tech included). **Based on findings by talking with Briana and testing on her Server/SP**

I think I got it.

Does engram customization work when no other mods are loaded except for Primitive+? Trying to isolate two different issues: engram customization and mod stacking. Two different issues. The mod stacking is going to be a more complicated one. It all depends on how Primitive Plus is set up and the mods you are loading are set up.

Engram customization w/o mods should be working. I don't know why it wouldnt allow you to override them when the mod does no overriding. If that's not working, it might be something that needs to be addressed in the dev kit itself. From everything I can see, it should be possible.

Originally posted by complexminded:

Originally posted by Ralx:

Passive Primitive Plus items. (Things that are gathered/harvested off of creatures) and visuals of base items that are altered within the Primitive Plus mod currently show/are active.

Engrams/Engram manipulation (aka hiding certain things etc) from the Primitive Plus mod are currently not showing up with mods.

Engrams/Engram manipulation with just the Primitive Plus mod only, are showing all tiers (tech included). **Based on findings by talking with Briana and testing on her Server/SP**

I think I got it.

Does engram customization work when no other mods are loaded except for Primitive+? Trying to isolate two different issues: engram customization and mod stacking. Two different issues. The mod stacking is going to be a more complicated one. It all depends on how Primitive Plus is set up and the mods you are loading are set up.

Engram customization w/o mods should be working. I don't know why it wouldnt allow you to override them when the mod does no overriding. If that's not working, it might be something that needs to be addressed in the dev kit itself. From everything I can see, it should be possible.

Engram Customization was not working at all when PP+ was run by itself.

I was unable to adjust cost or level of any Engrams.

The ability to adjust the cost of Engrams only occurs once mods are added. Weird, i know.

I downloaded Server from scratch and did it over to see if it was anything I couldn't find and this is what I found.

1. When server is Vanilla Engram Manipulation is possible as well as adding other mods.
2. Just running Primitive Plus Unrestriced Engram Manipulation is not Possible with Vanilla Engrams (I have not checked the Prim + Engrams)
3. When trying to load other Mods besides Prim +, the mods do not load.

Might I add that all the mods I've added are after Prime+ and all green

Originally posted by =PB= Misterscout:

I downloaded Server from scratch and did it over to see if it was anything I couldn't find and this is what I found.

1. When server is Vanilla Engram Manipulation is possible as well as adding other mods.
2. Just running Primitive Plus Unrestriced Engram Manipulation is not Possible with Vanilla Engrams (I have not checked the Prim + Engrams)
3. When trying to load other Mods besides Prim +, the mods do not load.

Might I add that all the mods I've added are after Prime+ and all green

This is curious. Please list the mods you are loading and in what order. We are up and currently running the following mods, and Primitive+ does load - We are gathering Tomato, Tobacco Seeds,Honey Bees, can build the PP+ Bookshelf, Smithy, etc - just dont see any of the PP+ Engrams:

Mods loading in order:

628683077 Primitive Plus Unrestricted
618916953 Cute Hair
613864333 Progressive Weapons
516096294 Perfect Hair!
576432474 Skin Mod (Helmets)
572350041 Coffer chests
495889006 ROTA
558651608 Bridges
544598236 Planting
600015460 Ark Pub
610672305 Vanaheimer Forge
520879363 Stairs Mod

When you say PP+ does not load - Are you gathering anything PP+ related? Spawn a bookshelf and Smithy and see what you receive.

List your Mods in load order please to give greater clarity to your situation.

Could you email me your Game.ini and gamesetting.ini

MrArk@mail.com

Since you are working there something wrong with mine. ill just make a comparison

I'm also using Ark Server Manager as an interface.

Originally posted by =PB= Misterscout:

Could you email me your Game.ini and gamesetting.ini

MrArk@mail.com

Since you are working there something wrong with mine. ill just make a comparison

I'm also using Ark Server Manager as an interface.

I don't send that around, but i can tell you key parts in it. I use specially modified dino's setting that had to be totally retuned since the "dino rebalance" WildCard did.

There is no special setting in either of those files that will help to solve your issue -- Except -- you posting your MODS - in Load Order.

This setting matters, and is the most important setting and only one in both .ini files that has anything to do with Engram manipulation that is not placed by another running mod.

[/game/mods/primitiveplusmod/gamemode_primitiveplus_unrestricted.gamemode_primitiveplus_unrestricted_c]
bOnlyAllowSpecifiedEngrams=true